[Notorious]

Why is Webber there?

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Notorious

Why is Webber there?

The Time out, I think his confidence was never the same after that
Would have been in a great team with Shaq in Orlando, got traded
Was in a great situation with Golden State, didn't like playing for Nelson so he got traded
Bullets teams sucked
Got screwed in Game 6 in the 02 WCF, entire team choked in Game 7
Got injured in the 03 Postseason and was never the same

It took him until he was 26 to finally start playing to his potential

[Notorious]

I wouldn't call Webber a waste of talent but I agree with T-Mac.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Notorious

I wouldn't call Webber a waste of talent but I agree with T-Mac.

Webber and T-Mac are pretty much the same. Had a few good-great years, then due to injuries/lazyness they digressed season by season and were never even close to reaching their peak. It's a shame, because Webber is a top 4 passing big man ever and McGrady could have been the #2 SG

[Ether]

AI still has moves

[Notorious]

He missed the shot though

Watching Real Training Camp on NBATV, Monty Williams has to be one of, if not the most underrated coaches in the league.

[Tyler Durden]

[BrosOfDestruction]

I wouldn't call either CWebb or TMac waste of talents. TMac pretty much reached his potential with Orlando and was unfortunate to play with some shittastic rosters with Pat Garrity, Shawn Kemp on child support etc. It's not really his fault his body broke down and injuries hurt his level of play with Houston although he was still a great player the first couple of years there. I can see CWebb if you really emphasize on the timeout though. I think that really hurt him mentally for the rest of his career and he became a softie in crunch time often playing hot potato. Bibby was the only guy with a set of balls on that Kings team.

Where is Derrick Coleman on your list? There was nothing he couldn't do on the court and is the only guy to ever put Shaq on a poster STRAIGHT UP. He was just lazy and didn't give a fuck about improving and working on his game. Vin Baker was really good too until alcoholism ruined his career.

[Red Viper]

Originally Posted by Ether

Odom is the biggest waste of talent in NBA history outside of Sheed/McGrady/Carter/Kemp/Webber

How is Odom a waste of talent? Nigga helped the Lakers win back to back championships. Just because he's awful now doesn't mean he wasted his talent.

Carter hardly wasted his talent either, he was on some awful teams for his prime and TMac fucked him over hard by leaving the Raptors for absurd reasons.

[The Lady Killer]

Wouldn't call Kemp a waste of talent either. Guy was a beast for many years and didn't start to get out of shape/worthless until later in his career. Plus, he helped lead the Sonics to the 96 Finals where they managed to hand Chicago 2 of their 13 (a ridiculous stat in itself) losses that year.