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King James rules supreme.

So yeah, off season time. Commence.
 
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He's not? Oh really? Anchored the Celtics to the #1 defense.

And before you say, "Oh noes the Celtics would be good on defense without KG", the Celtics are awful on defense without KG.

It's funny how people are quick to praise Tyson Chandler & Dwight Howard for anchoring their teams to good defensive rankings but KG doesn't get the same treatment.

Enjoy mediocrity?

Sorry I'd much rather have Rondo, KG, Pierce, Bradley, Green, Sullinger, Mayo and Steamer than have a 35 year old Kobe chucking 30 shots a game, a dumb ass center shooting three pointers, a deranged mediocre SF, one of the worst benches in the NBA, and a soft underachieving European PF. Oh and did I mention one of the worst coaches in the NBA?
 
#501 ·
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2 years would of been better. He already said how much it hurts to physically play. Oh well. It will make it harder to rebuild it they want to try.
I don't even think he will make it to the 3 years anyways. Either he will retire or get injured before the 3 years is up. But I do agree, two years would have been better or even 1 year with a team option. The money is fine. It's just under 12 million a season. They still need a shooter to replace Allen. That's their next need.
 
#471 ·
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He'll probably retire after this year and then we'll just buyout his contract like we did Rasheed's.

He always said he would retire when he felt he couldn't play at a high level anymore. If he didn't play as good as he did during the 2nd half of the season and playoffs, he probably would've retired.
 
#481 ·
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I'm afraid it's not all about Dolph'sZiggler.

Nash will go where he wants to go. Toronto has a good shot I'd say.
Just saying it would be a shame to see him waste the last few years of his career in Toronto where nobody will give a fuck about him.

Any team can make the playoffs in the West too, After the top 6, and above the bottom 2, it's a 7 team log jam for 2 spots.
Yea but for different reasons. Any team can make them in the East because there are only 5 or 6 teams that are worth a damn. In the West there are a bunch of good teams fighting for the last two spots.
 
#478 ·
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Nash would be a great fit in Toronto with JONAS, Bargnani, DeRozan and Ross. They'll probably make the playoffs and Nash could end up making the younger players better, he'll be a great influence to improve the young player's development.

I'd much rather Nash go to Toronto then go to Dallas or go to the Lakers.
 
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It's a myth that the West is still so much better than the East.

The West & East 1-8 are pretty even.

The dropoff in the conferences is from 9-15.

And Dolph'sZiggler maybe you won't, but I will give a fuck about Nash in Toronto because they will be probably the most entertaining team in the league by far.
 
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It's ignorant to say that the Raptors wouldn't get national attention even if they were good.

Were you alive during the Carter days?

Nash goes to Toronto and they become a playoff team hell fucking yes they would start getting attention and national TV games. As for everyone in the media, the media really only pays a lot of attention to and talks a lot about 4-5 teams: OKC, Miami, Lakers, Knicks, and I guess you can add the Bulls. So you can't really use the media as an example.
 
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It's ignorant to say that the Raptors wouldn't get national attention even if they were good.

Were you alive during the Carter days?
What are we calling 'good'? Like 7 or 8 seed in the East good? They won't get shit for attention. And Vince was a special case, he was the human highlight reel. People eat that shit up, it's why Blake griffin is on the runaway hype train. Comparing him to an end of his career Nash is pointless.
 
#489 ·
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The Raptors have a loyal local fan base and they deserve to have good players just like every other fan base that are dedicated to their team. Things are completely indicative on which games networks decide to show in the United States. The Raptors are broadcasted nationally in Canada. Every game. The Blue Jays are broadcasted nationally in Canada. Every game. Nash signing in Toronto would be HUGE in Canada. Bautista is HUGE in Canada. No one here cares what people in Omaha, Nebraska think of the Toronto Raptors as we are fully capable of supporting the team nationally. You sound like a typical ignorant American.
 
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The Raptors have a loyal local fan base and they deserve to have good players just like every other fan base that are dedicated to their team. Things are completely indicative on which games networks decide to show in the United States. The Raptors are broadcasted nationally in Canada. Every game. The Blue Jays are broadcasted nationally in Canada. Every game. Nash signing in Toronto would be HUGE in Canada. Bautista is HUGE in Canada. No one here cares what people in Omaha, Nebraska think of the Toronto Raptors as we are fully capable of supporting the team nationally. You sound like a typical ignorant American.
Who cares about Canada? they have less population in their entire barren country than the state of California. I understand why a Raptors fan would be excited, but for a Steve Nash fan such as myself it's a sad thing to hear might happen. If Nash announced he was going to sign with Golden State I would be happy, but I would understand why others would be letdown and it wouldn't get me all bent out of shape to know people were disappointed in the signing. Stop being so depressed that most people in the US don't care about Toronto sports. It's just a fact of life
 
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Not really a fact, just your opinion.

I don't see how it's a sad thing, he would be much better off in Toronto than in Golden State or Phoenix or Dallas. If you were a Steve Nash fan you would be happy to see him living his dream of playing for his home country and able to help speed up the development of young players playing for the Raptors, because it's not like the Raptors are full of only Canadians. There's more Americans on the Raptors than Canadians. As a matter of fact, last year there was one Canadian on the Raptors and he was a scrub who barely played.
 
#495 ·
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Not really a fact, just your opinion.

I don't see how it's a sad thing, he would be much better off in Toronto than in Golden State or Phoenix or Dallas. If you were a Steve Nash fan you would be happy to see him living his dream of playing for his home country and able to help speed up the development of young players playing for the Raptors, because it's not like the Raptors are full of only Canadians. There's more Americans on the Raptors than Canadians. As a matter of fact, last year there was one Canadian on the Raptors and he was a scrub who barely played.
Who do they have that's American outside DeRozan and Davis? They are the most international team around.
 
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Blah blah more typical american ignorance blah blah blah. Maybe if Nash signs with the Raptors a few extra eskimos will take a break from seal hunting to hack through the bush to Toronto to catch a Raptors game at the ACC. The biggest igloo in the world.

Who the hell cares what American's think of Canadian sport's teams?
 
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Blah blah more typical american ignorance blah blah blah. Maybe if Nash signs with the Raptors a few extra eskimos will take a break from seal hunting to chop through the bush to Toronto to catch a Raptors game at the ACC. The biggest igloo in the world.
I'm not saying the Raptors don't have a good, loyal fanbase. Whatever bro, continue to miss the point and take offense to something that's not at all meant to be offensive.

If you poll every American NBA fan and asked them if they care about the Portland Trail Blazers the vast majority of them would not. Agreed?

If you poll every American NFL fan and asked them if they care about the St. Louis Rams the vast majority of them would not. Agreed?

If you poll every American MLB fan and asked them if they care about the Kansas City Royals the vast majority of them would not. Agreed?

If you poll every American NCAA fan and asked them if they care about the Harvard sports the vast majority of them would not. Agreed?
I agree with all of this lol. What is your point? I wouldn't want a favorite baseball player of mine signing with the Royals to end his career, a favorite football player in STL, or a favorite basketball player in Portland. I'd want them either playing for a team that gets national media attention or a contender; Nash in Toronto fits neither of those criteria. I'm sorry you are all so up in arms about my opinion. If you think Nash in Toronto is the bees knees, awesome. I don't. Let's move on.

Who the hell cares what American's think of Canadian sport's teams?
You seem to care a lot judging by how upset your are getting about one comment I made about Nash going to Toronto.
 
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If you poll every American NBA fan and asked them if they care about the Portland Trail Blazers the vast majority of them would not. Agreed?

If you poll every American NFL fan and asked them if they care about the St. Louis Rams the vast majority of them would not. Agreed?

If you poll every American MLB fan and asked them if they care about the Kansas City Royals the vast majority of them would not. Agreed?

If you poll every American NCAA fan and asked them if they care about the Harvard sports the vast majority of them would not. Agreed?

@Chainsaw Charlie: Last year the only international players on the Raptors were Bargnani, Kleiza, Calderon and Magloire. The majority of their team was American.
 
#498 ·
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I understand what you're saying DZ that you as a Nash fan don't want him to sign with Toronto.

But to say that no one would care about Toronto if Nash went there and they became a playoff team that was fun and exciting to watch, I don't agree with.
 
#499 ·
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I understand what you're saying DZ that you as a Nash fan don't want him to sign with Toronto.

But to say that no one would care about Toronto if Nash went there and they became a playoff team that was fun and exciting to watch, I don't agree with.
Let me clarify then. Obviously a lot of people will care. Raptor fans will obviously care. Hardcore NBA fans such as yourself will care (though you would 'care' no matter where he went). But for me as someone who loves to watch Nash it's just more of a pain in the ass that I'll have to start streaming Raptors games if I want to see him play, whereas if he went to Dallas, LA, New York, ect I could just turn on ESPN or TNT.
 
#502 · (Edited)
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TNT/ESPN/NBATV will most likely give the Raptors more national TV games if Nash signs there.

It won't be as many as if he would sign with the Knicks or Mavs but they'd still get their fair share.
Maybe 2 or 3 on TNT/ESPN and a handful on NBATV.

The me seeing him thing is only half my problem with Nash in Toronto though. I also want to see him win a ring which obviously won't happen there. In LA he would have a real shot IMO and in Dallas he would still have an outside shot at a ring depending on what other tricks Cuban had up his sleeve this offseason.
 
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The Suns had like 20 national TV games last year, I'm pretty sure the Raptors would be able to get just as many.

And speaking of another veteran PG, Jason Kidd has announced that he will sign with ever team Deron signs to as his back-up. So Kidd will either return to the Nets or remain with the Mavs.
 
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We're rumoured to offer Nash 12mil a year, which is a little too much for my liking but looking at it from a business stand point it would be a great deal for us
 
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