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Old 04-01-2013, 12:13 PM   #3601 (permalink)
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There was some mither at Swansea that I recall, but sure that was something along the lines of sniffer dogs and aggressive searches at turnstiles because Chelsea had set off bangers and smoke bombs at a recent Cup away at Southampton. Most of the bubble trips are reserved for derbies, though only certain games (Leeds vs Millwall & Bristol City vs Cardiff in particular) seem to be regularly targeted. I do know Burnley fans were put through the same thing at the recent Blackburn derby though.

Essentially its hilarious such measures can still be allowed. The personal liberty of a supporter to make plans that are convinient to him exclusively shouldn't be sacrificed because there might be a few idiots looking for a scrap. The fact so many derby games with a chance of disorder aren't subject to these measures also ridicules the notion its done soley to prevent realistic disorder. It ruins an away game with a plethora of restricitions on away fans that kills any excitement and anticipation and needs to be looked at asap. Football fans get enough hassle and unfair treatment from Government & Police officials without outdated measures such as bubble trips still being legalised.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:10 PM   #3602 (permalink)
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If I were to say that there was a Rugby League match between Huddersfield Giants VS Hull FC that took place only a couple of weeks before hand that had a kick-off at a similar time (10 minutes later infact) which had no such restrictions imposed what that tell people everything they need to know about the Police's attitude towards Football Fans

I'll never understand the basis on which the Police made there decision to have that specific game approached in this way, it is a Yorkshire derby yes but there 75 miles between the 2 clubs and to put that into perspective that's roughly the same distance between Manchester & Nottingham or Central London & Ipswich and how likely do you think it is that you will see such measures put in place for a Man City VS Notts Forest match

On the plus side however it is good to see Hull City doing so well in the Championship under Bruce and if they beat Watford tomorrow night then that should be promotion back into the Premiership almost guaranteed
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In the UK its one rule for football fans and another for everyone else. You can take beer into the stands in both forms of Rugby as well as Cricket and you'll never be subject to measures like bubble trips in spite of numerous people attending more than one sport and Rugby/Cricket fans drinking just as much alcohol as football fans if not more.

No doubt football has a longstanding hooligan reputation but its amazing officials are still casting suspicion on football fans for acts committed decades ago. My absolute favourite is police potentially gaining additional powers linked to being able to immediately bring people they deem to have committed an offence before a court immediately whereas discretion would be used in the same instance but in a separate context, i.e a drunk man being a nuisance in a town centre in the early hours of the morning. If you get into a punchup in a boozer on a friday evening you'll be turfed out by the staff/doormen and on your way. Have the exact same exchange on a Saturday afternoon and the police will be less lenient and will look to arrest and detain you immediately simply because its occurred during football hours.

Completely ridiculous.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:20 PM   #3604 (permalink)
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What are people's thoughts vis a vis bubble trips? For those unfamiliar with the term, its a measure employed by Police for 'high risk' games whereby independent travel by supporters is prohibited. Therefore no away supporter is permitted to get the train, drive, walk or get on an coach/mini bus to the game. Every fan with a ticket is required to get on a supporters coach at the ground, pull into a service station where they're provided a match ticket, not able to drink alcohol throughout the game and then ushered into the home ground upon arrival.

Its notoriously copped abuse from fans and the FSF (Football Supporters Federation) for being draconian in its implementation and representing an unfair hinderance of personal liberty without just reason. It recently became a hot topic when Hull fans were made aware their away game at Huddersfield would be a bubble trip.

For those unaware of the itinery the Hull fans were subjected to for this game, it goes like this. Any Hull City supporter, be they local or elsewhere had to arrive at the Hull ground early to get onto a coach where they would later be given a ticket at a service station. Hilariously, this meant that if a Hull fan was living in Huddersfield then rather than walk to the ground, he would have to get a train to Hull, just to get on a coach to go back to Huddersfield because of these restrictions. Hull fans were also barred from taking any alcohol on board for the duration of the journey.

Personally, I've always thought it was a joke that such measures could be imposed. In this day and age, for football fans to be denied the basic freedom to make independent travel to a ground as well as have the freedom to drink is laughable. Its the police's job to take measures to curb any potential disorder should it arise at any moment in the day, such measures however go well beyond that civic duty and are a joke to still be around. Millwall have been subject to such measures most notably when travelling to Leeds, the most recent game at Elland Road saw no more than 100 Millwall make the journey through refusal to undergo such pathetic treatment for an entire day.

As for the Huddersfield/Hull match, this was the number of Hull fans who deemed the measures suitable to still attend the game:

Given the troubles we've had with Burnley in our games I agree with them. It's obviously a minority but they trashed our stadium a few weeks ago, trashed their own coaches too and sang horrific songs about Jack Walker. It's not isolated incidents either with them. After we battered them 5-0 in 2001 they went back to their own town & trashed it big time. Out last league meeting there were 20+ arrests after a big pre-planned fight in a pub. If Burnley fans were allowed into Blackburn on a matchday it would kick off big time, no question about it.



That's what they did to the bogs. This rivalry is mad and as much as I agree in principle that these orders are unfair on most supporters, there are enough headcases that justify the decision to implement them, definitely as far as our games with Burnley go because there would be serious trouble. There always has been.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:49 AM   #3606 (permalink)
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@ that toilet pic. Crazy.

Lyon losing to Sochaux really gives PSG the French Ligue now too doesn't it? So that's England, Germany, Italy, Spain and France all sorted already. EXCITING.
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:25 AM   #3607 (permalink)
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French league is the closest one of the lot, 7 points between PSG and Marseille.

You can more-a-less declare Scotland to Celtic now, even if it was a near foregone conclusion at the start of the season.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:53 AM   #3608 (permalink)
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Joseph Barton ‏@Joey7Barton 22m

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Joeys a bit jealous that Silvas twice the player he is, going to win the league and is going to play Barcelona in the Champions League.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:15 AM   #3609 (permalink)
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Barton is such a fucking tit. One of these days he'll pick on a player who won't take kindly to being called a pussy on twitter, and Barton will reap the consequences out on the pitch.

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