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Old 02-26-2013, 11:13 PM   #3131 (permalink)
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When have I claimed that he didn't create that "best team in the world?" He did. He did everything right for Barcelona.

But he couldn't handle the stress and NEWSFLASH--handling stressful environment and circumstances is one of the first bullets in the TOR of a football manager.

As for the competitive nature of the job, well, in Spain (less so at Barca), that is the case. It's something you deal with and he did deal with it, but the season--he couldn't win anything, he left. Your psychological diagnosis of that scenario could be different. Mine would be different.

Yes, I wouldn't expect Pep to manage QPR, would I? But it's all too flattering that he went from Barca (top team when he was there) to Bayern (presumably the next big thing).

About Pep vs. Jose, as much as I like Pep, he couldn't take the heat from Mourinho. Jose's mind games and BS became too much of him. While that shows that he is a classy man, unlike Mou, it also shows he prefers it cool and calm and doesn't do his best when under severe scrutiny.

Handling egos and stress is as much part of the job, as are the tactics. He's done them brilliantly but it's ironic, almost strange that Pep left the very season Barca failed to win the CL or La Liga.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:21 PM   #3132 (permalink)
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he did handle the stress, for 4 whole years. he said when he left it felt like an 'eternity.' he could have easily made up his mind that he was leaving before that final season began. just because he left when they didn't win the league is just a massive presumption. lets not ignore that it was such a monumental effort by madrid, and lets not ignore the massive effect that abidal's cancer troubles had on the squad as well. pep especially, who was very, very close to abidal.

he won 14 trophies under severe scrutiny. especially his first season where he lost the first few games, was in the relegation zone for a week and people were calling for his head. pretty sure that qualifies as severe scrutiny.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:23 PM   #3133 (permalink)
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not to mention the state barca management were in at the time
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:03 AM   #3134 (permalink)
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Pep's first season he also had the best squad Barca has had in ages, strike options of Eto'o/Messi/Henry with Gudjohnsen who pitched in a few goals too and even Bojan was scoring for them then. Choices of Pique/Milito/Puyol/Marquez for CB spots too and midfield choices of Xavi/Yaya/Iniesta/Keita/Bisqunts.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:02 AM   #3135 (permalink)
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Great to see Madrid beat Barcelona. Ronaldo's recent goalscoring record against Barcelona is incredible.

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A draw won't help Napoli much tbh, they need to win. if they draw, they would still be 6 points below Juventus. As a Juve fan, you should obviously hope for a win because you would have a comfortable lead of 9 points against Napoli and with that you can focus more on the Champions league.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:12 AM   #3136 (permalink)
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:20 AM   #3137 (permalink)
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Bayern vs Dortmund tonight in the German cup

Arguably to best team in the world vs Arguably the most entertaining team in the world and defending champions.

Hopefully it'll be a great match
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:58 AM   #3139 (permalink)
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After last night, I can't wait for United/Madrid at OT. Should be a classic.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:14 AM   #3140 (permalink)
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Remember when people were saying Ronaldo didn't perform in big games? And now he's scored in 6 consecutive classicos I think. Maybe more but I couldn't hear the commentary properly. But damn impressive nonetheless.
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