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2012-2013 Discussion Thread for La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, etc

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#1 · (Edited)
Any Football league not related to Premier league can be discussed here.

My predictions:

Serie A - Juventus
Bundesliga - Bayern Munich
La liga - Real Madrid
Ligue 1 - PSG
 
#2,248 ·
The "team of the year" is just pathetic. Like people said here, 100% popularity contest based on names and clubs alone. I usually don't take this too seriously but seeing Pique there instead of Kompany is disgraceful. Also don't get how Xavi was better than Pirlo this year. I guess that you need to take it for the joke that it is until they change the voting system.

As for Messi, Ronaldo won the league with a record breaking season for Real Madrid and led Portugal to a successful Euro. Messi scored a lot but didn't win any significant thing this year, how is he winning the award? Media hype BS.
 
#3,760 ·
lolscottishfootball.

Granted I'm not a fan but once Rangers got demoted that league lost it all. Rangers/Celtic was the only match to keep the neutrals remotly interested. Without that everyone knew it would be celtics trophy until Rangers manage to come back up.

If anything looking at the table im more shocked the gap wasn't wider between 1st and 2nd
 
#3,988 ·
Di Stefano is a great man in fairness. Genuinely likeable unlike some of the other football GOATs (Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, etc.)
 
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It's basically Celtics title for the forseeable future and (if they wasnt alredy) makes the county even less competitive in Europe with only one half decent side. Plus Rangers V Celtic was pretty much THE match in the SPL. Without that I dont see them gaining any wide appeal.
 
#55 ·
Rangers not being in the SPL will hurt the other teams financially. Gate receipts from games against Rangers compared to either Dunfermline or Dundee from home & away fans will drop dramatically, and I don't know when the TV deal is up but that will be considerably less when it's renegotiated. There may even be a get out clause for a situation like this. Aside from fighting for second spot, there is no other benefit for the other teams.
 
#56 ·
If only a few Russian billionaires would come along and buy clubs like Hearts, Dundee and Aberdeen.

Offer obscene wages and make the league more competetive.
 
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If only a few Russian billionaires would come along and buy clubs like Hearts, Dundee and Aberdeen.

Offer obscene wages and make the league more competetive.


I take it you didnt do any research before you mentioned the highlighted parts


and I take it you dont remember the obscene wages the brought this Champions League winner


and this European Championship winner
to Tynecastle

in short,
 
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Some players, and I know this might stupid, they have something called loyalty and love the club they play for. Roma are a big team and even though they've underachieved at times they've been in the Champions League more often than not I believe. He's the captain there, has a key role in the team and he lives in Rome. I don't know if was born in Rome but it's easy to see why he wouldn't want to leave there.
 
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I don't think we're even arguing the same point now. I accept that Rangers/Celtic have it a bit shitty, but that's life. When you're looking at the worlds most successful clubs, the first thing you look at is European Cups. Rangers have none. For whatever reasons, excuses, the fact remains, they have none. They're therefore nowhere being the WORLD's most successful club. Maybe if you say they're the "world's most successful domestic achievers relative to the quality of their league", it would make more sense.

The world's most successful clubs are Real Madrid, Milan, Barcelona, Munich, Liverpool/Man Utd. I would go with that order too when you factor in European Cups, League Titles and Domestic Cups.
 
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