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Old 02-11-2013, 03:31 PM   #2751 (permalink)
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There is absolutely no way Gomez would keep up with Ronaldo or Messi's scoring record in La Liga. He's not the type of player that creates chances for himself like a Ronaldo or a Messi. He needs others to lay on the chances for him, and there isn't enough service he could receive in the World that could get him the 45+ goals they get each season. Not to mention he wouldn't even get in either Barcelona or Real Madrid's sides anyway.

If you honestly think that scoring goals in La Liga is harder than the Bundesliga, then you are deluded. Remember when Messi scored 5 goals against Leverkusen in the CL? I rest my case. Also not to mention that EVERY single season for the past 10 years, the Bundesliga has averaged more more goals per game than La Liga. So there's statistical proof that it's easier to score goals in the Bundesliga.
So Gomez can outscore Ronaldo two years running in Europe but he would have no chance of matching him in La Liga, a competition not half as diverse nor as difficult to score in. Sure I'm the one whose deluded.

Also bad teams don't necessarily score lots of goals against other bad teams. Something for you to consider before you start bringing out your "proof".

Here's the only stat you're going to need so listen closely.

Last season Madrid scored 121 goals in 38 games. By comparison Munich and Dortmund (two teams every bit as good as Madrid, if not better) managed only 80 and 74 in 34 matches. That is the god damn proof you're looking for. If Madrid are so ungodly brilliant that they can average more than 3 goals a game in league competition then why did they come unstuck against both Munich and Dortmund in that same year. I think you smell what I'm cooking on that one.

Few players in history have such a peculiar ratio of league goals compared to International / European goals but because they're Ronaldo and Messi everyone just acts like this isn't the case.

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If Gomez is such a fantastic goalscorer then how come Huntelaar outscored him in Gomez's best season? Yet Huntelaar couldn't cut it in Spain.

You're argument for La Liga being a joke of a league is so flawed it's ridiculous.
Peculiar right. Similar to how Ronaldo couldn't keep pace with Gomez in the champs league over the last two seasons. Wait, what's that he's a more diverse player who has to create his own chances? Then how come he can score so many goals in Spain then with those same disadvantages? Answer, because it's a super easy league to score goals in.

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Old 02-11-2013, 03:44 PM   #2752 (permalink)
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So Gomez can outscore Ronaldo two years running in Europe but he would have no chance of matching him in La Liga, a competition not half as diverse nor as difficult to score in. Sure I'm the one whose deluded.

Also bad teams don't necessarily score lots of goals against other bad teams. Something for you to consider before you start bringing out your "proof".

Few players in history have such a peculiar ratio of league goals compared to International / European goals but because they're Ronaldo and Messi everyone just acts like this isn't the case.



Peculiar right. Similar to how Ronaldo couldn't keep pace with Gomez in the champs league over the last two seasons. Wait, what's that he's a more diverse player who has to create his own chances? Then how come he can score so many goals in Spain then with those same disadvantages? Answer, because it's a super easy league to score goals in.

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Well Ronaldo is ahead of Gomez now in champions league, does that count for anything? I think the other Mario is a better player anyway.

You didn't really cover the Huntelaar thing at all either, just went back to your old point that doesn't carry much weight considering more goals are scored in the Bundesliga the last couple of seasons on average compared to La Liga.

Nice bow though.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:56 PM   #2753 (permalink)
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Well Ronaldo is ahead of Gomez now in champions league, does that count for anything?

You didn't really cover the Huntelaar thing at all either, just went back to your old point that doesn't carry much weight considering more goals are scored in the Bundesliga the last couple of seasons on average compared to La Liga.

Nice bow though.
That stat doesn't mean anything. Teams in the conference can draw 0-0 with one another, doesn't mean they have a better defence than premiership sides. Bad teams don't draw 5-5 every time they play one another. I'm talking about how easy Madrid and Barca find it to score and I find it ever so strange that Madrid can score 121 goals in league competition with sides like Munich and Dortmund falling way behind that mark yet in Europe there's nothing between them as far as goalscoring is concerned. It's almost as if.... as if... tip of my tongue here... as if... La Liga is an easy league for a world class team to score in.

If Bayern were in that league you're looking at an extra 30 goals and I think I can imagine whose boot they would be mostly be coming from.

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So Karl Henry blames Wolves bad season on Ståle Solbakken: Henry the Captain who have lost them so many matches by getting red cards, Henry who has a no goal scoring record and cant play a forward pass twice in succession. Henry who almost helped them get relegated by Blackburn on the 2010 2011 season. You can see why there is no team spirit, when he is Captain. If Ward and Henry did their job as well as Sako did his, Wolves would not be on the edge of relegation. 'He's a good manager and had we had him at the start of the season we'd be at the other end of the table.' Karl 'Two Faces' Henry on DS after banging on months back about how he and the players bought into SS's philosophy. It's nonsense anyhow as without Sako, Doumbia and Pezko they be down already and DS wouldn't even have heard of them.
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Ok Celtic is out, so I'm praying Arsenal loses so I don't look like an idiot with the prediction I made a few weeks ago.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:39 AM   #2756 (permalink)
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a 16 year old french 'occasional escort' was arrested and apparently m'vila's mobile number was in the contacts.
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What a crazy ass bitch, if he went to Arsenal the professor would saved him like Adams.
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I wonder if Rubin Kazan really know what they've gotten themselves into with M'Vila.
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Yaya Toure, Makelele and Vieira rolled into one apparently....
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