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post #211 of 4322 (permalink) Old 08-07-2012, 05:35 AM Thread Starter
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How many players from City/Dortmund/Juventus have come out and said they deserve Ballon D'or? Seeing as they have won just as much as Penaldo if not more.

Such an idiot.
Individually Ronaldo has performed much better than all the City, Dortmund and Juve players. To win ballon D'or, individual performances matters most. Excluding Pirlo of course who imo performed better than Ronaldo last season and also had a brilliant Euro.





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post #212 of 4322 (permalink) Old 08-07-2012, 07:07 AM
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Why does he deserve it IrishJet? Because he scored the winning goal against Barcelona? Is that all you need to do to win the Ballon d'Or?

Casillas was just as important to Madrid as Ronaldo. And he happened to lift the Euro too.
Because he's been the best player in the world in the time frame. Pretty simple. Scored outrageous numbers of goals, produced in big games, won the league. Messi would have won it had he have helped Barca beat Chelsea and win the CL, he didn't produce - Biggest game of their season and he done nothing. Sorry.

Iniesta runs him close. Very close in fact and I wouldn't mind seeing him win it at all, but I think Ronaldo shades for his consistency in the league and his goals in big games. I'd have Pirlo in 3rd. Casillas did not have his best season this year at all. To say he was as important as Ronaldo would just outscore the vast majority of teams anyways, is pretty laughable.

If Ronaldo was Spanish it wouldn't even be a debate. What he done for Portugal in the group stage and QF was still very impressive.

Also, of course he's implying that he thinks he should win. He knows Messi's the more popular player though, that's probably why he's talking about justice.
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Justice should indeed happen. Andrea Pirlo should indeed win it.

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bring up messi in champions league final, ignore wasnt there

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Messi was in the Champions League final? When did he sign for Bayern Munich?

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Messi should win it. By a decent margin too.

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Messi will be the likely outcome.

No player has had greater influence on his team this past season than Messi, the closest after him is Pirlo.

Carried Barca on his shoulders for the entire season and doing so had the best individual season of any player in the history of the game. If he had gotten injured, it would have been beyond catastrophic for Barca.

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Messi will be the likely outcome.

No player has had greater influence on his team this past season than Messi, the closest after him is Pirlo.

Carried Barca on his shoulders for the entire season and doing so had the best individual season of any player in the history of the game. If he had gotten injured, it would have been beyond catastrophic for Barca.
He was awesome yes but better than Maradona's first season for Napoli? He pretty much single handedly transformed them.
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He was awesome yes but better than Maradona's first season for Napoli? He pretty much single handedly transformed them.
Going on stats alone.

73 goals and 29 assists in 60 apps.

If Messi doesn't break that record then we will likely never see it broken, at least in our lifetime. That record is sheer lunacy when you think about it.

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