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Old 12-10-2012, 06:18 PM   #1911 (permalink)
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Being the best in the world against the best in the world in a pressurised situation is far more impressive than a goalscoring record over the course of one year.
As previously stated, he was the best in the world against some pretty average teams in 86, not the best in the world. There was a reason he could not replicate this form in 90.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:23 PM   #1912 (permalink)
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As previously stated, he was the best in the world against some pretty average teams in 86, not the best in the world. There was a reason he could not replicate this form in 90.
The same 1990 where he was their best player en route to another World Cup Final? A final they only lost mind you because of one of the worse dives in football history.

Was Serie A average in 89/90 too?
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Biggest sign that messi is the best on earth in my opinion is just watching him

Its almost unfair when you see teams taking him on

Hes proven himself in tournaments, leagues. Big games and small. Hes a pretty good kid

Hes got time to show his skillz internationally too. Hes really brought out some good performances for argentina lately
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:26 PM   #1914 (permalink)
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The same 1990 where he was their best player en route to another World Cup Final? A final they only lost mind you because of one of the worse dives in football history.

Was Serie A average in 89/90 too?
You mean the same 1990 when they lost to Cameroon, ended 3rd in their group and had to win two penalty shootouts to get to the final?

Also their goalkeeper is widely regarded as their best player at the 1990 tournament and his Serie A acheievement was very good but it wasn't as high pressured as playing against some of the best players in the world at the most prestigous tournament in the world now was it.

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You mean the same 1990 when they lost to Cameroon, ended 3rd in their group and had to win two penalty shootouts to get to the final?
You mean the same 1990 when his individual brilliance actually kept them in the game against Brazil and Italy?

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:32 PM   #1916 (permalink)
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Real question is how much better or worse would diego have been when not fucked up on coke.
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real question is how good fat ronaldo would have been if not for his chronic knee injury


and him being FAT

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and his Serie A acheievement was very good but it wasn't as high pressured as playing against some of the best players in the world at the most prestigous tournament in the world now was it.
Glad you agree. International performance is more important. The fact that he's got the Serie A career to go with it is just one hell of a tasty bonus.
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Glad you agree. International performance is more important. The fact that he's got the Serie A career to go with it is just one hell of a tasty bonus.
I've never disagreed. International performance is important but consistency is key. He did it against average teams in 86. It wasn't the same in 90 against stronger teams. Zidane managed to do it in 98 and 06.

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You might need to sit down for a few minutes. I think your mind's just been blown by the might of Diego.

Maradona - he makes average teams look brilliant when he wants.




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I've never disagreed. International performance is important but consistency is key. He did it against average teams in 86. It wasn't the same in 90 against stronger teams. Zidane managed to do it in 98 and 06.
Maradona is the reason why Italy's superb team in 90 went out. And Brazil and Yugoslavia. He was the MVP behind their route to the final. If he couldn't match 86 it's because no-one on the planet could replicate that kind of class twice.

Zidane was one of many incredible players in those teams. Maradona wasn't. Funny you should bring up group stages and Zidane given his early contribution in the 1998 World Cup.

You're completely off the mark about there being these average teams in 86 too. Not knowing who the players were doesn't make them average. Maradona just made them look bad.

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