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post #161 of 4322 (permalink) Old 08-03-2012, 12:06 PM
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Rangers maybe the most decorated team in football, but I'm sorry, a lot of those decorations are of low quality, so I can't agree that they are the most successful.

This might seem harsh, but Madrid's 9 European Cups alone trumps Rangers 50-whatever SPL titles. It's all about the standard of competition.

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We don't know if the players knew about EBT's or not, some might of, some might not of.

Either way, it doesn't change their on field performance, and even if we did lose the titles in the time period being inspected we would still have more titles than everyone. Businessmen put EBT's in place not a club can't act by itself, and punishment should be aimed at the people that are responsible.

But the SPL is a difficult level at times for Rangers and Celtic, some teams Real Madrid etc play against in the Champions League are the same quality as the teams in La Liga, which suits the level of the Real Madrid play it, so their achievements are amazing in proportion to the level they compete at, just as any other teams achievements, are just as good, but the level they can play it and the quality of the level they play it.

SFA have made quite a mess of the whole situation as it is.

Simply put, the level you play at is proportionate to any club's success. Proportionality at the level we are at as a club and the level we are allowed to play it, we have been more successful than any other club.

EDIT: It's a 'lower quality' of competition to clubs that compete at a different level, but many factors out of clubs' control contribute to what level they are able to compete at, it's not a 'low quality' to the teams that are there, so the achievements match up.
I'm not saying Rangers and Celtic and any successful club could win the Champions League just because they have had success.

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You also need to compare the quality of the leagues. SPL is nothing compared to La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Epl. That is why there is champions league and Europa league so that teams from Europe can compete with each other. Ranger and Celtic has done shit recently in Europe and hasnt achieved there as much as Real, Milan, United, Bayern, etc. I disagree, Rangers are not the most successful.





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You also need to compare the quality of the leagues. SPL is nothing compared to La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Epl. That is why there is champions league and Europa league so that teams from Europe can compete with each other. Ranger and Celtic has done shit recently in Europe and hasnt achieved there as much as Real, Milan, United, Bayern, etc. I disagree, Rangers are not the most successful.
I very much doubt you have read all my posts, based on that quote. And what I am saying is a fact. By that I mean that we've won more trophies, obviously you all have different opinions to me on what makes a club the most successful, we're not going to be mutual I don't think.

And just for the sake of it, EDIT: We've done quite well in our recent Champions League groups, got in the latter stages of the Europa League a few times, and we were in the UEFA Cup final in 2008. Celtic, had a few good results against good teams in their Europa League group last year too.

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We gonna go HAM on PSG today.

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A team's country of origin is not really an excuse for poor European Cup performaces when you consider that teams like Porto, Monaco, hell, even Panathinaikos have reached the final or semifinal in multiple ocassions. I guarrantee that the Greek League is as shit as a league can get, yet Olympiacos, Panathinaikos and PAOK all have produced respectable results in Europe over the past few years.

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GOATING on PSG.

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Rangers need to lose the titles for the period that they over spent in. And Rangers most successful team of all time? The Scottish league is easy to win for Celtic and Rangers.





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Lol @ giving up a 2-0 lead.

We are incredibly shit. Playing the pre-season like we did during the Chelsea-Madrid-Chelsea games.

This is frightening.

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