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Old 11-08-2012, 10:00 PM   #1591 (permalink)
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Adverts. If you watch American Football on TV, the ad time is almost equal to the playing time. In Football, there are only adverts at half-time, which are barely watched anyway.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:07 PM   #1592 (permalink)
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what are gridiron's tv deals like?
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:19 PM   #1593 (permalink)
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incredible

even if youre running your franchise like a brain dead retard, you still make bank

so yeah, even blackburn management could succeed in the NFL
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:20 PM   #1594 (permalink)
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Super Bowl spots are still the hottest ticket in advertising.

NBC has sold all the commercial airtime for the Feb. 5 game in Indianapolis and even has a waiting list of advertisers. The average cost for a 30-second spot this year was $3.5 million, with some time slots costing as much as $4 million.
Just a little snippet from the last SB.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:16 PM   #1595 (permalink)
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Well when only 1 of the 12 clubs are running any substantial profit, and the league structure as a whole is being crippled by a recession, then one must question how its present structure can continue.

Inb4 Celtic/Rangers to the EPL
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:00 AM   #1596 (permalink)
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Adverts. If you watch American Football on TV, the ad time is almost equal to the playing time. In Football, there are only adverts at half-time, which are barely watched anyway.
This, I can't stand to watch a game as it's usually one play and then a commercial then another play which is followed by a commercial. The game has no flow as a result
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:51 AM   #1597 (permalink)
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Defensively we're too poor and we need to work on that side of the game for sure. The two goals we gave away came from simple high balls into the box that we just couldn't deal with. They were crap goals to concede, especially at the death like that to lose two points like we've done three times away from home already this season.

Murphy's been absolute gash all season. He hasn't looked motivated at all. Until Berg came in he'd been dropped by Black and we were getting the wins without him. If Berg can get him playing to anything like he was last season at Fulham then great because we lack quality in the centre of midfield.

Rhodes is a goal machine and the problem we've had is giving him the service he deserves. When he's had someone playing alongside him like Nuno Gomes & Rochina he's always had chances and usually taken them. Most of the time though he looks isolated due to our lack of wingers and lack of a strike partner.

Tuesday was an improvement on Saturday and I think with this squad we need time to improve. Aside from Robinson, Givet, Rochina & Rhodes we're starved of any real talent. Dann's a liability at the back, Hanley's clumsy, so is Martin Olsson. Pedersen's a tart who can't cut it anywhere on the field now, same goes for Dunn and Etuhu & Murphy don't look interested.
That Rhodes goal almost broke my heart lol. From what I saw of Murphy he was a pretty good leader on the pitch , very vocal. I think its definitely a mental thing with regards to you conceding goals. After you took the lead Blackburn just seemed to panic and lose all the composure on the ball they had. Would have been interesting to see what the scoreline would have been if we had Beckford/Vaughan on the pitch as they are easily our best players. Followed by Adam Hammill when he isn't beating up female paramedics.
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The game really is in a precarious position. More and more clubs at all levels now are charging obscene prices and whilst fans for the most part either through loyalty or the fact they can afford the prices are still paying these prices, there's going to come a time when fans finally start to question why its worth paying so much for a game of football. I hate to bring up Germany again, but just look at their model. The fans know without them the game can't prosper and they're aligned with one another to curb any potential price hike or alteration in the system. The Premier League and indeed the nation as a whole is so divided between regions and rivalry that there's no collective unity and that means the fans will continue to be exploited. You'd think with all the TV revenue money and general turnover clubs could afford to make tickets cheaper, but with clubs being run as businesses these days no amount of turnover is enough.

I mean look at the prices in the Premier League:

Man City away was as much as £24 5 seasons back, now £51-55. £38 is the cheapest for the smaller clubs.

Arsenal for Category A games charge £62. This applies to Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool.

Chelsea charge £47-50 regardless of opposition, but for the bigger teams expect closer to £60.

Liverpool charge £42 as a minimum, again for bigger teams its around £46. Used to be £28 not too long ago.

Swansea is now £45 for away fans, up from £35 last season.

Norwich are charging Man Utd £50 for the upcoming fixture, anyone who pays that is a mug.

Tottenham are charging between £51-59 for the Category A games this season, dearest seats in the home end at around £74.

Villa is £41 this season, down from £45 last season remarkably but still extortionate. The fact they charged West Brom and Wolves £45 last season should tell you of the times we're living in.

Fulham away is £49 for Category A games...fucking Fulham. Aka the most plastic set of fans in the League.

Chelsea are charging Aston Villa between £52-55 for a game on the 23rd December, 2 days before Christmas. I pray Villa take below 500 because that's the only way an asinine price like that will be dropped next season.


Then you take into account Championship clubs charging up to £33 in some cases, League 1 and League 2 clubs charging upwards of £25 for the dearest ticket and fucking Conference clubs charging close to £20 in a lot of cases and you just have to question how clubs can get away charging such obscene prices at all levels of the game.

By contrast, the 1999 Champions League Final in Barcelona was £15 for Man Utd fans, and Chelsea's game at Donestsk this season was £5.
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The game really is in a precarious position. More and more clubs at all levels now are charging obscene prices and whilst fans for the most part either through loyalty or the fact they can afford the prices are still paying these prices, there's going to come a time when fans finally start to question why its worth paying so much for a game of football. I hate to bring up Germany again, but just look at their model. The fans know without them the game can't prosper and they're aligned with one another to curb any potential price hike or alteration in the system. The Premier League and indeed the nation as a whole is so divided between regions and rivalry that there's no collective unity and that means the fans will continue to be exploited. You'd think with all the TV revenue money and general turnover clubs could afford to make tickets cheaper, but with clubs being run as businesses these days no amount of turnover is enough.

I mean look at the prices in the Premier League:

Man City away was as much as £24 5 seasons back, now £51-55. £38 is the cheapest for the smaller clubs.

Arsenal for Category A games charge £62. This applies to Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool.

Chelsea charge £47-50 regardless of opposition, but for the bigger teams expect closer to £60.

Liverpool charge £42 as a minimum, again for bigger teams its around £46. Used to be £28 not too long ago.

Swansea is now £45 for away fans, up from £35 last season.

Norwich are charging Man Utd £50 for the upcoming fixture, anyone who pays that is a mug.

Tottenham are charging between £51-59 for the Category A games this season, dearest seats in the home end at around £74.

Villa is £41 this season, down from £45 last season remarkably but still extortionate. The fact they charged West Brom and Wolves £45 last season should tell you of the times we're living in.

Fulham away is £49 for Category A games...fucking Fulham. Aka the most plastic set of fans in the League.

Chelsea are charging Aston Villa between £52-55 for a game on the 23rd December, 2 days before Christmas. I pray Villa take below 500 because that's the only way an asinine price like that will be dropped next season.


Then you take into account Championship clubs charging up to £33 in some cases, League 1 and League 2 clubs charging upwards of £25 for the dearest ticket and fucking Conference clubs charging close to £20 in a lot of cases and you just have to question how clubs can get away charging such obscene prices at all levels of the game.

By contrast, the 1999 Champions League Final in Barcelona was £15 for Man Utd fans, and Chelsea's game at Donestsk this season was £5.
Ridiculous prices for games down south. Up here its more league 1 level of pricing. As you say though the clubs will not lower prices as most are selling at the prices they are just now. Season ticket sales are down in the PL but more people are going to say 1-5 games a season when they had previously been season ticket holders. Also English teams get people coming from abroad to watch the big clubs so they bring a massive amount of money. Wigan are the only decent priced team in the PL imo. The German ticket system and the use of free public transport with your ticket is the way forward particularly in Scotland were attendances have stagnated in the last 5 years. Quality wise it's worth no more than £15 for a an average game for an adult.
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I think the fact that the SPL gets the attendences of a local school game means it can only get worse.
The SPL gets similar crowds to that of Russia and Turkey despite 1/10 of the population and has the highest attendance per head in Europe(even without Rangers), but lets just ignore all that.
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