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Old 11-10-2012, 05:11 PM   #7991 (permalink)
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Am I being harsh in thinking that De Gea should have saved the first and could have blocked the cross for the second? I'm just thinking that if VDS or any other top class keeper was in goal then United wouldn't have needed to make that comeback.
First one a bit harsh to say he SHOULD have said it since thats the kinda shot that would separate the good keepers from the GREAT keepers. Same for the second but maybe he should have done a bit better.

Also can someone just punch Hernandez in the face plz
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fucks up the control and gets lucky on the first, second clearly an own goald and Hernandez still claims the hattrick, little prick.
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Am I being harsh in thinking that De Gea should have saved the first and could have blocked the cross for the second? I'm just thinking that if VDS or any other top class keeper was in goal then United wouldn't have needed to make that comeback.
Wouldn't have needed to make the comeback if we had a midfield and solid defence.

He probably could have done better and maybe on another he would have saved the first one.

Nothing lucky about the finish curry pal, defender should have done better after hernandez miscontrolled it.
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First one a bit harsh to say he SHOULD have said it since thats the kinda shot that would separate the good keepers from the GREAT keepers. Same for the second but maybe he should have done a bit better.

Also can someone just punch Hernandez in the face plz
That's my point though, shouldn't United have a great keeper rather just a good keeper? If that was Ruddy playing for us (to be fair he would have swallowed up that cross and he usually saves shots like Weimann's first) doing that then I probably wouldn't bat an eyelid because he's just a good keeper and that's all we can really expect, but United's standards should be be much higher, surely?
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The way arsenal fans celebrated winning that pen, for them to miss it. = Priceless
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He was Berbasex today

What a fucking pena, not a single fuck is ever given with that man.
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That's my point though, shouldn't United have a great keeper rather just a good keeper? If that was Ruddy playing for us (to be fair he would have swallowed up that cross and he usually saves shots like Weimann's first) doing that then I probably wouldn't bat an eyelid because he's just a good keeper and that's all we can really expect, but United's standards should be be much higher, surely?
Thing is though De Gea is still pretty damn young and growing. The guy has got a ton of potential. Of Course Man U should have a great keeper, which if he develops correctly De Gea should be. Can't expect him to be that level right now though.

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bbc reporter pretty much telling wenger he should have got berba.

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Thing is though De Gea is still pretty damn young and growing. The guy has got a ton of potential. Of Course Man U should have a great keeper, which if he develops correctly De Gea should be. Can't expect him to be that level right now though.
I'm probably alone in this thought but I just don't see that potential in him. He lacks presence and doesn't have anything close to resembling top class agility and reflexes which should be two things that a young keeper has naturally, they don't really develop that much with time. The best attribute that he has is his distribution but other than that I fail to see the big deal with him. Hopefully for United fans he proves me wrong, but Fergie doesn't really have a great track record of finding and developing raw/unknown keepers, big Pete aside.
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I'm probably alone in this thought but I just don't see that potential in him. He lacks presence and doesn't have anything close to resembling top class agility and reflexes which should be two things that a young keeper has naturally, they don't really develop that much with time. The best attribute that he has is his distribution but other than that I fail to see the big deal with him. Hopefully for United fans he proves me wrong, but Fergie doesn't really have a great track record of finding and developing raw/unknown keepers, big Pete aside.

Fergie likely won't be still the gaffer come 2-3 years so there is a good chance whoever comes in good sign a new goalie if he hasn't reached the level he should and if they feel the same way as some people about de gea.

Same can be said about alot of the young players at the club that have potential a new manager could see things different once fergie retires.
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