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Old 11-03-2012, 06:29 AM   #7461 (permalink)
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They get severe talkings-to by between 30 and 60 thousand people even when they make a good decision.

Mistakes are always going to happen, but no other job gives you one shot, one view, without warning that it is coming, to make a big decision. The odds are stacked against them and for that reason they should have some sympathy.
Thats the job they chose to do. Its not like you don't expect the usual banter but when poor decisions come week after week after week then you have to expect the abuse to step up.

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It is obvious to anyone with a brain that Clattenberg hasn't racially abused anyone. Chelsea shaming themselves yet again.
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A referee has been accused of racially abusing someone, what is your proposal exactly? Ignore it becuase a "it's obvious he hasn't done anything" or actually investigate it and come to a resolution through a genuine inquiry? You make a valid point until The Clattenburg bit and "Chelsea shaming themselves yet again" which comes across as a piece of uneeded vitriol tacked onto an otherwise decent post.
bingo. I don't care for Chelsea, definitely don't care about Clattenburg but anyone who says they would handle things differently is having a laugh. If it comes out through a proper investigation that he didn't say anything then Chelsea look bad and rightfully will cop a lot of stick for it. If Clattenburg did say something then its exactly the type of thing people have been trying to get out of football and its a disgrace.

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Becuase Ramires and Mata are the two players who heard Clattenburg, it's a great argument you make until you miss that point.


I haven't got a clue whether Clattenburg will be done for this or not, but to just ignore it and not investigate it is moronic. Anark if this was a black player on the team you support would you want it investigated regardless?
If the shoe was on the other foot then this would've been the correct way to handle it, Fergie is the man for taking a stand, its a good thing racism is being stamped out etc etc.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:35 AM   #7462 (permalink)
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Something does need to be done about Chelsea's discipline and attitude to refs IF Clattenburg is innocent. If the allegations are false then they've really unfairly tainted Clattenburg's career for no genuine reason which shouldn't be tolerated. Obviously if it's true then Chelsea have every right to report the incident and make it public knowledge. Either way one party looks irreversibly bad and the sport looks a joke yet again. I guess it's possible the players could have misheard what the ref said but they shouldn't report it unless they're 100% sure because of the obvious repercussions.

If it's true that the refs are threatening to boycott Chelsea matches than it's a tad pathetic. Something needs to be done about the treatment of officials in general but especially in this case if he's done no wrong. Threatening to refuse to officiate Chelsea games is hardly the answer though because it'll just start off conspiracy talk everytime Chelsea get a decision against them. Fifa aren't helping refs either by not introducing technology to the game to review decisions. Refs are only human and it's impossible for them to get every decision right with the pace the game is played at the reaction time they have to make such major decisions.

The whole situation just needs clearing up and putting to bed ASAP because right now it's just a really black (hehe) cloud hanging over the game that's doing nobody any good. Best not take a year to resolve like the Terry case.
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Different sport but it's eerily reminiscent of the Harbhajan Singh / Andrew Symonds bullshit from the 2007/08 Indian tour of Australia. Singh racially abused Symonds, the Australians rightfully reported it, India had a sook and 'took a stand' and tried to make it as though we were the bad sports, and Singh got off on appeal.

Referee, player, coach, fan, it doesn't matter who it is, if they say/do something racist, then fuck them off from the game.
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i was nearly right, just cleverley instead of scholes, surprised wootton has got a place on the bench instead of keane

im guessing welbeck's injury on wednesday has kept him out


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Old 11-03-2012, 07:01 AM   #7465 (permalink)
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Different sport but it's eerily reminiscent of the Harbhajan Singh / Andrew Symonds bullshit from the 2007/08 Indian tour of Australia. Singh racially abused Symonds, the Australians rightfully reported it, India had a sook and 'took a stand' and tried to make it as though we were the bad sports, and Singh got off on appeal.

Referee, player, coach, fan, it doesn't matter who it is, if they say/do something racist, then fuck them off from the game.
it's unfortunate that at local level here there's a fair bit of racism, especialy towards the indigenous lads. i remember one game where daniel motlop was playing for north adelaide, and there was a group of supporters calling him names and stuff all game. shameful stuff. the well known australian security companies (i.e non existent) turning a blind eye to it was just as bad.
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surprised wootton has got a place on the bench instead of keane
Probably a confidence thing after Wednesday.

No reason why we shouldn't win this unless Cazorla single handedly gets Arsenal something from the game.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:25 AM   #7468 (permalink)
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it's unfortunate that at local level here there's a fair bit of racism, especialy towards the indigenous lads. i remember one game where daniel motlop was playing for north adelaide, and there was a group of supporters calling him names and stuff all game. shameful stuff. the well known australian security companies (i.e non existent) turning a blind eye to it was just as bad.
Yeah I've heard it at NRL and Super Rugby games as well, even to their own players. I was down in Canberra when the Brumbies were playing the Jobbatahs, and when Kurtley Beale done goofed, a select few supporters from NSW were calling him obscene names. I didn't care, but when you're around kids and families, it's not good at all
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RVP to bag himself 2 or 3. I'd 8 2 see a repeat of last year if I were an Arsenal supporter though.
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