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Old 10-31-2012, 06:06 PM   #7321 (permalink)
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Eh, its always a great tie but we've had them home and away in the past 4 seasons. I'd have sooner had Bradford away (not played them in over a decade and Valley Parade is a top old school ground, especially the away end behind the goal). Would have had a good allocation, cheap prices and only the more devoted and hardcore United would have gone to it. Leeds is one of those ties where your casual fan probably isn't arsed for fear of getting a kicking, but at the same time its definitely got the potential to attract some utter weapons who want to 'experience the atmosphere' and proceed to video the match on Youtube. Fuckers.

Villa would have also been an ideal away, if only because it used to be a top away with the old away end behind the goal being a class end and loads of hardcore United always getting tickets. Plus we always seemed to play them in the December timeframe where our support gets really excellent, i.e 12 days of Cantona song. Minute they moved the away end to the side stand and started making the prices dearer and dearer its progressively lost its allure as one of the best aways of the season. At least in the cup we'd of had a better allocation and they'd have made it cheaper. Think the last time we had them away in the cup it was in 07/08 when we had around 7000 in the ground and its one of the best atmosphere United have ever produced post 2000 at an away ground.

Middlesbrough away could also have been good, but they're notoriously shit with us when it comes to tickets. They hate our persistant standing and always seemed to try their best to get United to sit. Indeed I remember a cup game back in 2004 or 2005 where we only got around 1100 tickets due to our persistant standing, with the belief they'd be able to patrol United better and get them to sit. All 1100 United stood and the half empty ground proved how stupid they were to not give United 5000 more tickets and get more revenue.
That was a great move by Lerner, now the away fans aren't breathing down the Villa keeper's neck for 45 mins each game. The away fans are now tucked up in the upper corner of the stadium, which is incidentally where you'll find away fans at Old Trafford isn't it? Not that you hear me complaining.

:mon described the new seating plan as 'an end to end thriller for the Villa players' with each end stand full of home fans. That's a quote btw and nothing to do with Redead's thriller post.

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Old 10-31-2012, 06:07 PM   #7322 (permalink)
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As am I with Villa at home, couldn't ask for a better tie without all of the stars and planets aligning. Both of us should be excited at the prospect of reaching the semi-finals now. Neither of our clubs are above wanting to win this competition in any way.

It's going to be a hell of a game, a big tv match in the making.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:13 PM   #7324 (permalink)
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Judging by how empty there stadium is on any match day I think Middlesbrough just hate fans turning up, it was embarrassing seeing a half-empty stadium on Match of the Day when Borough where in the Premier League

When it comes Loyalty I think Middlesbrough are probably the worst supported team in the country
In fairness to them a lot of the hardcore fans have to put up with a lot of crap, the club/stewards constantly writing letters to supporters telling them to stop banging the metal walls to create noise, constant cringey PR displays by the club to cater to families and the fact that the ground is far too big for their support, so home games are souless and dear..therefore un-desirable. Doesn't help that the McClaren era ushered in part time fans expecting greatness who swiftly departed when they sank further and further down the table. To their credit their away support isn't bad, they've taken some very good numbers to places in the Championship though the distance they have to travel really does impact on how many they take to certain games.

Home games in general are usually dire these days, unless you've got a small/compact ground to generate an atmosphere. There's so many types of fans who attend them, from hardcore fanatics, to kids, to mums, to teenagers only there because they have fuck all else to do, to idiots there expecting glory who only turn up when it suits them...and as a result so many home supports are incredibly piss poor. At least with away games you know more of the hardcore contigent will travel, and considering you get a far smaller allocation for away games the hardcore fans will outnumber the casuals and create a better atmosphere. United, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle, Spurs, Villa etc are all generally awful at home but very good at minimum away from home..well City aren't as good and Liverpool are really inconsistent the past few seasons but you get the picture.

Plymouth are the best support however when it comes to regular long distance travelling. The numbers they take considering their league position is incredible.

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That was a great move by Lerner, now the away fans aren't breathing down the Villa keeper's neck for 45 mins each game. The away fans are now tucked up in the upper corner of the stadium, which is incidentally where you'll find away fans at Old Trafford isn't it? Not that you hear me complaining.

:mon described the new seating plan as 'an end to end thriller for the Villa players' with each end stand full of home fans. That's a quote btw and nothing to do with Redead's thriller post.
Eh, good for you, shit for everyone else. Old away end had brilliant acoustics and generated a top atmosphere. Side stands are always far more suspect for acoustics and the two tier divide makes it harder for away fans to generate a consistent atmosphere. So yeah, definitely more of an advantage for you but sucks for away fans. Plus the fact Villa are charging more and more for away fans makes it evern worse, 45 last season. Feck that!

United's away end is generally one of the better parts of the ground for atmosphere. Noise is trapped in by the design of the stand and near the TV cameras so always clear on TV. Stretford End Tier 2 by contrast traps all the noise inside the stand which gives the effect they aren't singing when generally there's always a good atmosphere in that stand regardless of the opposition (I say this from all the times I've been in that stand, not been since September 2010 out of principle so for all I know its gotten really shit over the past 2 seasons).

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Great game and good performance from alot of the lads especially ando he was awesome not sure why he was subbed.

Not much you can do when it's the likes mata and hazard against wootton and Keane.



Leeds/chelsea should be fun. Final 4 predicition boro vs arsenal and chelsea vs THE BRAVE ONES.
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To be honest I'm going to be completely devastated if we lose this one. Can already picture Lambert fist pumping in front of the Barclay if we concede a late goal which knocks us out

By the way, did you see that Heskey on the 'Rod Hull and Emu' show video that I posted a while back?
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Fully expect United/Arsenal to have 5+ goals in it with atleast one pena and maybe an RVP hat trick
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:37 PM   #7328 (permalink)
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To be honest I'm going to be completely devastated if we lose this one. Can already picture Lambert fist pumping in front of the Barclay if we concede a late goal which knocks us out

By the way, did you see that Heskey on the 'Rod Hull and Emu' show video that I posted a while back?
Yeah I saw that, his face when they got his name wrong was :bridge

I also saw Abramovich sitting with Shevchenko tonight. Obviously going to bring him out of retirement and sign him again if he feels the way Joel and Redead do about Torres and Sturridge
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Torres wouldn't mind Shevchenko rejoining Chelsea because then he would have someone to make him look quick again.



To be fair, if Sheva was Spanish he would have ended up with the golden boot at the Euros. He was only one goal away from reaching that target in just the group stages! Makes Torres' 'achievement' look ridiculous when you consider that.
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Torres, Sheva and Sturridge as our attacking band

we'd win games because most teams would just see those guys starting and not bother playing a defence thats not needed

oh how I miss the day of kalou

im also annoyed at the fact that our entire attacking squad is tired as fuck. oscar, hazard, mata and even moses!

atleast torres will be fresh
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