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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Chelsea/United... LET'S GET IT ON!)

he took barcelona, completely changed them, cleaned out the dressing room and made them into the powerhouse they are today. he's an absolute tactical genius and will be exceptional in the premier league, no matter what club he joins. also promoted players like busquets, tello, pedro to name a few, put immense amounts of faith in the and have been rewarded.

simply put, he's a genius and a class man to boot. eagerly awaiting guillem's book about him.

honestly, the way we're setting up our backroom, it seems that we're really gearing up to move for pep.

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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Chelsea/United... LET'S GET IT ON!)

How would Moyes be better suited?



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Moyes has experience of the premier league, a good track record of transfers, has kept Everton a top half (often top 5/6) club on a pathetic budget and had a good record at Preston previous to that.

Guardiola has never managed in the prem, has been successful at one team with a very distinct dynamic that Man U do not share (see Rodgers to Liverpool), was successful at a team where he inherited players such as Messi, Alves, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, Toure etc and was allowed to spend 88m in his first transfer window, he also has a somewhat mixed transfer history (12m for Hleb, 17m for Cacares, 10m for Henrique, 16m on Kerrison, 25m on Chygrynsky).

I never said he was a better manager, but that he would be better suited to Man U.

In short, I think moyes would do a better long term job

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One thing you missed though. Pep has the experience of managing at a very VERY high level. What Moyes doesn't have. Yeah he inherited some good players but it takes a great manager to manage those good players which he done amazingly. He made some great choices such as playing Messi ahead of guys like Ibra. Really changed the dressing room dynamic. All his work

With Moyes I just don't think he could handle the pressure if he went to Man U right now. He doesn't have the level of juggling league with Cups and European football all in one go. Everton have no real pressure on them to succeed due to the funds they spend. Hell he can finish 8 and it would still be a success tbh. Pep showed in a short period of time that he is easily one of the best managers around.



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he took barcelona, completely changed them, cleaned out the dressing room and made them into the powerhouse they are today. he's an absolute tactical genius and will be exceptional in the premier league, no matter what club he joins. also promoted players like busquets, tello, pedro to name a few, put immense amounts of faith in the and have been rewarded.

simply put, he's a genius and a class man to boot. eagerly awaiting guillem's book about him.

honestly, the way we're setting up our backroom, it seems that we're really gearing up to move for pep.

Well said and completely agree. Barca before he took over were very very good he turned them great again, same could be said about United we are very good but pep could make us great again.

Only thing that may worry me is that does he have the mental toughness fergie has? probably not but hopefully he has enough and IF does takeover deals with the pressure and has the staying power.


Just hope Chelsea or City don't get to him first


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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Chelsea/United... LET'S GET IT ON!)

has done the foreward in Balague's book on Pep

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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Chelsea/United... LET'S GET IT ON!)

What Champion's league experience does Moyes have? Where is his track record of winning trophies? How do you know that he would be able to man manage top class players with huge egos? When has he had to deal with extreme pressure and expectations?

There's absolutely nothing to suggest that Moyes would be suited to United and that's no slight on the guy because he's a good manager. It's just that he has proved absolutely nothing at the very top level. Pep has, end of argument.



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Well said and completely agree. Barca before he took over were very very good he turned them great again, same could be said about United we are very good but pep could make us great again.

Only thing that may worry me is that does he have the mental toughness fergie has? probably not but hopefully he has enough and IF does takeover deals with the pressure and has the staying power.


Just hope Chelsea or City don't get to him first
if yoi can read graham hunter's book about barca's transformation. the guy has exceptional mental toughness, some of the shit he went through when he first took over was ridiculous. the doubts about whether he was the man or not, having officials against his appointment, fans wanting him gone after a few poor results. then it all clicked and the rest is history. he would go to any english club, any club in the world for that matter and completely change them for the better.

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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Chelsea/United... LET'S GET IT ON!)

United are clearly going to go for Kean. No doubt about it.
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Yeah he inherited some good players but it takes a great manager to manage those good players which he done amazingly. He made some great choices such as playing Messi ahead of guys like Ibra. Really changed the dressing room dynamic. All his work.
A guy like Ibra who was brought in by guardiola for 46 million euros and Eto'o?

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also promoted players like busquets, tello, pedro to name a few, put immense amounts of faith in the and have been rewarded.
Moyes has brought through players like Rooney, Rodwell and currently barkley, without the advantage of a world famous academy and a B team to bring players through.

And I repeat to everyone, I do not think Moyes is a better manager or tactician than Pep, just more suited to the current dynamic of Man U.


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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Chelsea/United... LET'S GET IT ON!)

I see what you're saying and i bet some united fans want Moyes same as alot want jose or ole or even klopp.

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