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Old 10-21-2012, 07:33 PM   #6111 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (What's the MATA, AVB? Feeling BLUE?)

mata works better because he's got players around him in that area of the pitch who are just as good (hazard). nasri hasn't kicked on like we hoped, and we still don't have a winger (sinclair isn't going to be anything). silva's stopped being our most important player too, we're not relying on every play to go through him, hell, we've played yaya in silva's position to much more success.

but the chances silva creates are massive. if our finishing wasn't so poor at times he could have 7 assists a game in some cases. his deft touches, little flicks around the corner, many of them don't get finished off. plus he struggles with a pretty serious ankle problem that he's had since valencia, it really flared up around jan last season and would be again now with no break thanks to euros.
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Old 10-21-2012, 07:59 PM   #6112 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (What's the MATA, AVB? Feeling BLUE?)

Simple way to look at it, which one would you prefer to have in your team?

For me it's Silva by a long way, Mata is world class and all but i'd prefer Silva at United.

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Default Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (What's the MATA, AVB? Feeling BLUE?)

look at this way

imagine how MORE assists mata would have if torres wasnt the guy getting half his passes
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:07 PM   #6114 (permalink)
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look at this way

imagine how MORE assists mata would have if torres wasnt the guy getting half his passes
A very valid point.





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Old 10-21-2012, 11:55 PM   #6115 (permalink)
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But they said Torres is back. :hhh
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:43 AM   #6116 (permalink)
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mata works better because he's got players around him in that area of the pitch who are just as good (hazard). nasri hasn't kicked on like we hoped, and we still don't have a winger (sinclair isn't going to be anything). silva's stopped being our most important player too, we're not relying on every play to go through him, hell, we've played yaya in silva's position to much more success.

but the chances silva creates are massive. if our finishing wasn't so poor at times he could have 7 assists a game in some cases. his deft touches, little flicks around the corner, many of them don't get finished off. plus he struggles with a pretty serious ankle problem that he's had since valencia, it really flared up around jan last season and would be again now with no break thanks to euros.
Interesting to see FLOPZARD mentioned


Anyway, if you compare their first seasons, Mata's had the better one and that's without

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Readead, imagine that was Falcao He'd score hat tricks over hat tricks.

On a serious note though, Torres is shite atm. I've been one who defended him all along but I can see what Joel's been saying since day one of the season
Guy has literally no pace, piss poor in decision making, isn't sharp anymore and has been squandering chances. Even though he's scored a few, if you consider the chances he's been getting it's just too much to bear.

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Old 10-22-2012, 12:46 AM   #6117 (permalink)
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you do realise flopzard is sarcasm right
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:16 AM   #6118 (permalink)
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Torres carried Mata to EURO GLORY last summer.

he should bow down to the great one
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:34 AM   #6119 (permalink)
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The thing is. He is never going to be that player again. Pundits keep waiting and asking whilst forgetting the fact that his physical attributes have declined to the extent that while he is still a good striker, but he isn't ever going to be world class again. I said in 2009/10 when he was injured left right and centre to my old man that he will be just like Michael Owen, in that he was a world class forward ravaged by injuries who was never going to quite regain the form of his younger years.
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I think Silva is a better player but if i had to pick 1 to play for us then it would be :mata
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