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post #531 of 8216 (permalink) Old 07-14-2012, 07:40 PM
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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League Thread

I didn't know Neymar joined Arsenal.

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Oh come on, Rush. The Suarez case was absolutely different. For one, the person who claims to be abused actually said they heard it. Suarez admits to directing that language at Evra. His excuse was it is common in Uruguay and when the research was conducted, it was said that was not the case.
Terry was caught on tape saying it. Suarez case was based mostly on the word of Evra and a few others. Not saying Suarez is innocent but its amusing to see you condemn him while at the same time sucking off Terry. The only reason he got off was because it was in court. If the Suarez case was in court he would've got off as well. FA should've handled it, and banned Terry at the time.


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Who did give the man of the trial award to? I'd guess Lampard seeing as Scott Parker wasn't involved.

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Terry was caught on tape saying it. Suarez case was based mostly on the word of Evra and a few others. Not saying Suarez is innocent but its amusing to see you condemn him while at the same time sucking off Terry. The only reason he got off was because it was in court. If the Suarez case was in court he would've got off as well. FA should've handled it, and banned Terry at the time.
he wouldnt of got off, terry got off due to credible witnesses, in the suarez case the witnesses were found to be unreliable who changed their story

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he wouldnt of got off, terry got off due to credible witnesses, in the suarez case the witnesses were found to be unreliable who changed their story
They had a long time to get their story straight. I doubt that, provided Suarez put forward a decent case, that a court could prove beyond a resonable doubt he did it. Not saying he didn't do it, but in a court situation all you have to do is provide some doubt.


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I don't think what John Terry said was racist, but the connotations of what he said was absolutely racist. In different context, I don't think it would have been looked upon the same way. There is a difference in calling someone a man or a black man, yet they neither are racist.

Calling someone "a Ginger cunt" isn't considered anything more than an insult, it's just a descriptive word, so I think calling someone "a black cunt" isn't racist within words,

However, John Terry had the option to call Anton Ferdinand anything in the world yet chose to use the word Black to describe him during the insult, which in my eyes makes him racist. He didn't just call him a cunt, like he would anyone else, he called him a Black cunt. He chose the use the colour of Antons skin as an added insult.

I don't know whether I'm smart enough to get across what I'm trying to say. I have heard people say what He said wasn't racist, so John Terry isn't racist... Wrong. The connotations and expression BEHIND the words are as racist as slinging out the worst words imaginable.

As a footballer, John Terry has had his moments; diving on his stomach to head the ball away in the world cup, as daft as it sounds, made me a fan. For every good thing he has done, he has had an affair with a friends wife, actually a racist and once I saw him with a giant white wooly scarf around his neck and I think that's the worst offense of all! You would never see Bobby Moore doing that!! haha..

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I didn't know Neymar joined Arsenal.
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Terry was caught on tape saying it. Suarez case was based mostly on the word of Evra and a few others. Not saying Suarez is innocent but its amusing to see you condemn him while at the same time sucking off Terry. The only reason he got off was because it was in court. If the Suarez case was in court he would've got off as well. FA should've handled it, and banned Terry at the time.
No. Suarez admitted he said the term. And then we had everyone from his camp and some Uruguayan players rushing to say it is not an offensive word. Which was researched and proved a load of bollocks. His story also changed a lot of times as the 100+ page document showed. I condemn Suarez because he was proved guilty. Why is that wrong?

Terry now has always maintained he repeated the word and not directed it at Anton. Is it true? I don't know because the evidence is not there to prove either way. So he's not guilty. So why should I condemn him?

Again, it went to court because the incident was first spotted by someone who isn't even part of football, who then sent a complaint to the police.

It's ridiculous that you think if Suarez is guilty, Terry must be too when it's different cases.


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Again, if this Terry case was done for the FA he'd have been banned. No question. However b/c a court of law requires you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, Terry can argue his case saying he was being sarcastic (yeah fuck that for a joke). I don't think Terry is guilty b/c Suarez is guilty. I'm saying that if this case was done in the same way as Suarez's then he'd have been banned.


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