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good performance, you can see the defence has been worked on

Cleverley should keep his place next game, was impressed with him again.

Evra actually had a decent game Rafael kept Ben Arfa quiet

Rooney probably slightly edged cleverley for MOTM
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Fantastic performance overall. Away at Newcastle any win is an incredible result.

Defensively as solid as we've been all season, the back 4 were immense across the board - Cisse and Ba barely had a kick - Ben Arfa got nothing from Rafa or Evra. Such a contrast from last season. The only problem was De Gea, who effectively reinforced every criticism made of him - Never looked comfortable and made a mess of almost every ball that came in. Either we stick with him and live with these mistakes, which I'm not sure we can afford to do or we make the change to Lindegaard and stick with it. We absolutely cannot keep rotating, regardless. Pick one and he's your guy.

Going forward we looked far better, in the first 20 minutes we were relentless. Rooney has made such a difference - Sway what you want about him, on form there's no better player in the league, just majestic today. Controlled the tempo of the game and made some great passes, unlucky not to score, always helping out defensively too. Cleverley and Carrick had their best games this season and between those two and Rooney, there was much more control in the play. RVP and Kagawa were pretty subdued, Welbeck was lively and should have scored at least 2, was causing them problems if nothing else.

Class performance, great result. Nice way to head into the international break and put last weeks disaster behind us. Really think we can make a move in the table with the next few games, particularly with those cunts Chelsea coming up.
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lol Newcastle. BERRIED.

Really good win, wasn't expecting that at all.


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Cleverley said he meant the goal
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Well wasn't i wrong .

Still think we need to keep a quicker tempo for longer periods like we had in the first 15mins, jury still out on Kagawa for me.

Rio was marvelous again like at anfield, evra had a good game , carrick was solid. Tom's workrate is fantastic and all round game is very good but he should always play in a diamond or a 3 imo. maybe games at home vs the likes of wigan he can play in a two.

I'm one of his critics but rooney when playing well is one of the best his overall game is brilliant. Please welbeck learn to finish take some notes form yorke, cole or ruud.

Evans fucking love that lad no matter if he has a bad game or not just one of them players but like nearly all had a top game today.
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On Reds striker Luis Suarez going down too easily in the Stoke area: "Retrospective decisions are made on a Monday and Luis Suarez should be punished. The one in the penalty box was an embarrassment and how he wasn't booked I don't know."

Funny how he skips over the fact that Huth stamped on Suarez chest

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after newcastle's back 4 was listed it was never going to be anything other than a united win. perch is somehow at a top level club, williamson is meh, santon i rate and ferguson is not a left back by any stretch. coloccini absolutely vital.

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Newcastle fans were dying for defensive reinforcements in the summer. Maybe Ashley will realise now.

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I'm really happy with the result, especially taking into account myself (and other United posters) weren't that confident for this fixture. Pleased overall.

First 20-25 minutes, we were great and played some solid football. Evans and Evra with them bolting headers for the first two goals. Quality!

Last 20 minutes of the first half, we were careless and allowed Newcastle to attack without adding any pressure. I was worried that would continue second half but besides the first 5-10 minutes of the second half, we started playing some good football again. The fast, flowing movement was nice to see and it created some good opportunities to score. However, with Welbeck on the end of some of them, we didn't get some of the goals we rightfully deserved.

I have to mention the defence; Rafael was solid and has a fantastic second half. Kept Arfa quiet and always kept up with him when he was on the attack. Ferdinand was just beastly especially in the air, Evans was great and Evra had his best game since the Arsenal away game last season (back in January). Very surprising typing that. All four defenders deserve a lot of credit, besides a few shakey moments and De Gea flapping at the ball a few times, we looked like a solid unit at the back. A bonus to get the cleansheet and unexpected when our opposition was Newcastle.

De Gea didn't have his greatest game but he made up for it with the sensational save that looked like it was over the line at first. On replay though, I can't tell as not all of the ball looks over. Still, he needs to improve at claiming the ball in the air, he looked good against Cluj doing that but not so much today.

Kagawa was anonymous and continues his trend of being poor in our away games, Carrick did a good enough job at keeping the ball moving and holding onto the ball when under pressure and Cleverley had another superb game and was all over the place. The goal was terrific and if he did mean it, what a shot!

Rooney gets Man of the Match and he deserved the accolade today. Dictated the play from midfield, did a great shift at the back when he needed to and held the ball well and linked up nicely with the midfield and created a lot of our attacks. Van Persie was decent but quiet in stages.

Poor Giggs, comes on for 5 minutes and just doesn't seem like he can run anymore. Such a shame in comparison to 2 seasons ago.

Overall, very pleased with the performance.

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I think Kagawa is being hurt by our formation and not really knowing how to use him. Now I have a very passing interest in football in general thesedays, so I could be totally wrong when I say he's better in a central attacking mid/supporting frontman role (just recall a collection vid someone posted here when he signed and most of his play seemed to come through the middle) rather than what Ferguson has been having him do this season: i.e on the left/right of a 3 man midfield and making him do more work off the ball. Our reliance on width and slow passing football also really seems to be something he'll have to adjust to as well, feels like someone that would excel at Arsenal with the way they move the ball compared to our style of play.

Basically whilst he hasn't set the world on fire I'm ready to give him a chance and see what he does when he's given one regular position instead of being shipped sideways in these makeshift formations.

Very good overall performance today, De Gea still looking suspect on the crosses but his all round play still makes me think he should be the 1st choice. Maybe try and drill into him he's best leaving those sorts of crosses to the defence for the time being. Thought Rafael was excellent in not letting Ben Arfa dictate the pace of the game, very few times where he was conclusively beaten by Ben Arfa.
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