[Sleeper]

Originally Posted by Nige™

Goals win games, simple as that. You don't get goals or points for pretty passing.

Typical English response. How well have England done over the years playing 'results football'? Passing football has been proven to be the most effective way of getting goals recently too.

[Nige™]

Originally Posted by Bananas

Typical English response. How well have England done over the years playing 'results football'? Passing football has been proven to be the most effective way of getting goals recently too.

True but the fact remains a goal's a goal. You can pass it round all you want, pissing about without threatening the goal like Barca did in the second half against Chelsea, if you get taken on the break, shit happens. A goal's a goal. The problem with England is we were so negative that when we got the ball we were so far back we couldn't get out where Chelsea used the ball better and had players in more advanced positions than we did at the Euros.

Watching Rovers under Sam you quickly learn that a shit win's better than nothing. Look what happened trying to play more attractive football under Kean with better players like Hoilett, Rochina & Formica compared to the Dioufs & Jason Roberts. It was hard to accept Sam's style at first but you quickly realise what's important.

[Seabs]

Originally Posted by Bananas

Typical English response.

It's a FACT actually.

[JOAL.com]

you dont understand football

[Seb]

Hitting the bar from a penalty and hitting the post = not threatening the goal. England were also far less negative than Chelsea, we just can't keep the ball because we're technically horrendous and thus spent a lot of time on the back foot and defending, whereas Chelsea just chose to park 10 in the box for 3 straight matches.

At no point did play attractive football. Slightly less boring than Allardyce, but even Tony Pulis can manage that.

[Nige™]

Originally Posted by Seb

At no point did play attractive football. Slightly less boring than Allardyce, but even Tony Pulis can manage that.

Originally Posted by Nige™

Watching Rovers under Sam you quickly learn that a shit win's better than nothing. Look what happened trying to play more attractive football under Kean with better players like Hoilett, Rochina & Formica compared to the Dioufs & Jason Roberts. It was hard to accept Sam's style at first but you quickly realise what's important.

We kept the ball on the ground more and didn't solely play for set pieces like we did under Sam but Kean was naive in thinking he could play Barca style football with players who aren't capable of doing so. The standard dropped more this season but there were some promising signs in his half season in charge when we played Liverpool off the park to get Woy the sack.

[5th-Horseman]

Originally Posted by Bananas

Typical English response. How well have England done over the years playing 'results football'? Passing football has been proven to be the most effective way of getting goals recently too.

Well that's innacurate in my view. If it was such a shit way to win matches then why did we win the Champions League then? Also I seem to have missed the part where we were talking about Spain at the Euros?

Regardless, the way England played and the way Chelsea played were not the same, most of that has come from "well one of them is the England international side and the other plays in England so they have to be similar" I think. The quality of the England players when they had the chance to get a bit of posession or counter and the quality of us in the same situation were miles apart. I actually had faith of us on the counter and to atleast not lose the ball immediately if we were lucky enough to take the ball of Barca or Bayern, not with the England international side though.

[JOAL.com]

to be fair though, if rooney had been better during the euros he coulda buried a lot of good chances

england didnt create much, but they had a few chances which they couldnt finish

[Gambit]

Originally Posted by Seb

Hitting the bar from a penalty and hitting the post = not threatening the goal. England were also far less negative than Chelsea, we just can't keep the ball because we're technically horrendous and thus spent a lot of time on the back foot and defending, whereas Chelsea just chose to park 10 in the box for 3 straight matches.

At no point did play attractive football. Slightly less boring than Allardyce, but even Tony Pulis can manage that.

Liverpool hit the woodwork about a million times last season. If you don't put the ball in the net then you don't deserve to win.

[haribo]

Da fuck. Crazy Japs

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