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2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Sometimes being BRAVE is not enough)

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yeah fixtures are being released in about 10 minutes, thought it was about time this thread was made.

Saturday, August 18th, 2012
Arsenal v Sunderland
Everton v Manchester United
Fulham v Norwich City
Manchester City v Southampton
Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur
Queens Park Rangers v Swansea City
Reading v Stoke City
West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool
West Ham United v Aston Villa
Wigan Athletic v Chelsea

Saturday, August 25th, 2012
Aston Villa v Everton
Chelsea v Newcastle United
Liverpool v Manchester City
Manchester United v Fulham
Norwich City v Queens Park Rangers
Southampton v Wigan Athletic
Stoke City v Arsenal
Sunderland v Reading
Swansea City v West Ham United
Tottenham Hotspur v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday, September 1st, 2012
Chelsea v Reading
Liverpool v Arsenal
Manchester City v Queens Park Rangers
Newcastle United v Aston Villa
Southampton v Manchester United
Swansea City v Sunderland
Tottenham Hotspur v Norwich City
West Bromwich Albion v Everton
West Ham United v Fulham
Wigan Athletic v Stoke City

Saturday, September 15th, 2012
Arsenal v Southampton
Aston Villa v Swansea City
Everton v Newcastle United
Fulham v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester United v Wigan Athletic
Norwich City v West Ham United
Queens Park Rangers v Chelsea
Reading v Tottenham Hotspur
Stoke City v Manchester City
Sunderland v Liverpool

Saturday, September 22nd, 2012
Chelsea v Stoke City
Liverpool v Manchester United
Manchester City v Arsenal
Newcastle United v Norwich City
Southampton v Aston Villa
Swansea City v Everton
Tottenham Hotspur v Queens Park Rangers
West Bromwich Albion v Reading
West Ham United v Sunderland
Wigan Athletic v Fulham

Saturday, September 29th, 2012
Arsenal v Chelsea
Aston Villa v West Bromwich Albion
Everton v Southampton
Fulham v Manchester City
Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City v Liverpool
Queens Park Rangers v West Ham United
Reading v Newcastle United
Stoke City v Swansea City
Sunderland v Wigan Athletic

Saturday, October 6th, 2012
Chelsea v Norwich City
Liverpool v Stoke City
Manchester City v Sunderland
Newcastle United v Manchester United
Southampton v Fulham
Swansea City v Reading
Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Queens Park Rangers
West Ham United v Arsenal
Wigan Athletic v Everton

Saturday, October 20th, 2012
Fulham v Aston Villa
Liverpool v Reading
Manchester United v Stoke City
Norwich City v Arsenal
Queens Park Rangers v Everton
Sunderland v Newcastle United
Swansea City v Wigan Athletic
Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester City
West Ham United v Southampton

Saturday, October 27th, 2012
Arsenal v Queens Park Rangers
Aston Villa v Norwich City
Chelsea v Manchester United
Everton v Liverpool
Manchester City v Swansea City
Newcastle United v West Bromwich Albion
Reading v Fulham
Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur
Stoke City v Sunderland
Wigan Athletic v West Ham United

Saturday, November 3rd, 2012
Fulham v Everton
Liverpool v Newcastle United
Manchester United v Arsenal
Norwich City v Stoke City
Queens Park Rangers v Reading
Sunderland v Aston Villa
Swansea City v Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur v Wigan Athletic
West Bromwich Albion v Southampton
West Ham United v Manchester City

Saturday, November 10th, 2012
Arsenal v Fulham
Aston Villa v Manchester United
Chelsea v Liverpool
Everton v Sunderland
Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur
Newcastle United v West Ham United
Reading v Norwich City
Southampton v Swansea City
Stoke City v Queens Park Rangers
Wigan Athletic v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday, November 17th, 2012
Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur
Fulham v Sunderland
Liverpool v Wigan Athletic
Manchester City v Aston Villa
Newcastle United v Swansea City
Norwich City v Manchester United
Queens Park Rangers v Southampton
Reading v Everton
West Bromwich Albion v Chelsea
West Ham United v Stoke City

Saturday, November 24th, 2012
Aston Villa v Arsenal
Chelsea v Manchester City
Everton v Norwich City
Manchester United v Queens Park Rangers
Southampton v Newcastle United
Stoke City v Fulham
Sunderland v West Bromwich Albion
Swansea City v Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United
Wigan Athletic v Reading

Tuesday, November 27th, 2012
Aston Villa v Reading
Manchester United v West Ham United
Southampton v Norwich City
Stoke City v Newcastle United
Sunderland v Queens Park Rangers
Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion
Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool
Wigan Athletic v Manchester City

Wednesday, November 28th, 2012
Chelsea v Fulham
Everton v Arsenal

Saturday, December 1st, 2012
Arsenal v Swansea City
Fulham v Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool v Southampton
Manchester City v Everton
Newcastle United v Wigan Athletic
Norwich City v Sunderland
Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa
Reading v Manchester United
West Bromwich Albion v Stoke City
West Ham United v Chelsea

Saturday, December 8th, 2012
Arsenal v West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa v Stoke City
Everton v Tottenham Hotspur
Fulham v Newcastle United
Manchester City v Manchester United
Southampton v Reading
Sunderland v Chelsea
Swansea City v Norwich City
West Ham United v Liverpool
Wigan Athletic v Queens Park Rangers

Saturday, December 15th, 2012
Chelsea v Southampton
Liverpool v Aston Villa
Manchester United v Sunderland
Newcastle United v Manchester City
Norwich City v Wigan Athletic
Queens Park Rangers v Fulham
Reading v Arsenal
Stoke City v Everton
Tottenham Hotspur v Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion v West Ham United

Saturday, December 22nd, 2012
Chelsea v Aston Villa
Liverpool v Fulham
Manchester City v Reading
Newcastle United v Queens Park Rangers
Southampton v Sunderland
Swansea City v Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur v Stoke City
West Bromwich Albion v Norwich City
West Ham United v Everton
Wigan Athletic v Arsenal

Wednesday, December 26th, 2012
Arsenal v West Ham United
Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
Everton v Wigan Athletic
Fulham v Southampton
Manchester United v Newcastle United
Norwich City v Chelsea
Queens Park Rangers v West Bromwich Albion
Reading v Swansea City
Stoke City v Liverpool
Sunderland v Manchester City

Saturday, December 29th, 2012
Arsenal v Newcastle United
Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic
Everton v Chelsea
Fulham v Swansea City
Manchester United v West Bromwich Albion
Norwich City v Manchester City
Queens Park Rangers v Liverpool
Reading v West Ham United
Stoke City v Southampton
Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur

Tuesday, January 1st, 2013
Chelsea v Queens Park Rangers
Liverpool v Sunderland
Manchester City v Stoke City
Newcastle United v Everton
Southampton v Arsenal
Swansea City v Aston Villa
Tottenham Hotspur v Reading
West Bromwich Albion v Fulham
West Ham United v Norwich City
Wigan Athletic v Manchester United

Saturday, January 12th, 2013
Arsenal v Manchester City
Aston Villa v Southampton
Everton v Swansea City
Fulham v Wigan Athletic
Manchester United v Liverpool
Norwich City v Newcastle United
Queens Park Rangers v Tottenham Hotspur
Reading v West Bromwich Albion
Stoke City v Chelsea
Sunderland v West Ham United

Saturday, January 19th, 2013
Chelsea v Arsenal
Liverpool v Norwich City
Manchester City v Fulham
Newcastle United v Reading
Southampton v Everton
Swansea City v Stoke City
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United
West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa
West Ham United v Queens Park Rangers
Wigan Athletic v Sunderland

Tuesday, January 29th, 2013
Arsenal v Liverpool
Aston Villa v Newcastle United
Manchester United v Southampton
Norwich City v Tottenham Hotspur
Queens Park Rangers v Manchester City
Reading v Chelsea
Stoke City v Wigan Athletic
Sunderland v Swansea City

Wednesday, January 30th, 2013
Everton v West Bromwich Albion
Fulham v West Ham United

Saturday, February 2nd, 2013
Arsenal v Stoke City
Everton v Aston Villa
Fulham v Manchester United
Manchester City v Liverpool
Newcastle United v Chelsea
Queens Park Rangers v Norwich City
Reading v Sunderland
West Bromwich Albion v Tottenham Hotspur
West Ham United v Swansea City
Wigan Athletic v Southampton

Saturday, February 9th, 2013
Aston Villa v West Ham United
Chelsea v Wigan Athletic
Liverpool v West Bromwich Albion
Manchester United v Everton
Norwich City v Fulham
Southampton v Manchester City
Stoke City v Reading
Sunderland v Arsenal
Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers
Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United

Saturday, February 23rd, 2013
Arsenal v Aston Villa
Fulham v Stoke City
Liverpool v Swansea City
Manchester City v Chelsea
Newcastle United v Southampton
Norwich City v Everton
Queens Park Rangers v Manchester United
Reading v Wigan Athletic
West Bromwich Albion v Sunderland
West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday, March 2nd, 2013
Aston Villa v Manchester City
Chelsea v West Bromwich Albion
Everton v Reading
Manchester United v Norwich City
Southampton v Queens Park Rangers
Stoke City v West Ham United
Sunderland v Fulham
Swansea City v Newcastle United
Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal
Wigan Athletic v Liverpool

Saturday, March 9th, 2013
Arsenal v Everton
Fulham v Chelsea
Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester City v Wigan Athletic
Newcastle United v Stoke City
Norwich City v Southampton
Queens Park Rangers v Sunderland
Reading v Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion v Swansea City
West Ham United v Manchester United

Saturday, March 16th, 2013
Aston Villa v Queens Park Rangers
Chelsea v West Ham United
Everton v Manchester City
Manchester United v Reading
Southampton v Liverpool
Stoke City v West Bromwich Albion
Sunderland v Norwich City
Swansea City v Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham
Wigan Athletic v Newcastle United

Saturday, March 30th, 2013
Arsenal v Reading
Aston Villa v Liverpool
Everton v Stoke City
Fulham v Queens Park Rangers
Manchester City v Newcastle United
Southampton v Chelsea
Sunderland v Manchester United
Swansea City v Tottenham Hotspur
West Ham United v West Bromwich Albion
Wigan Athletic v Norwich City

Saturday, April 6th, 2013
Chelsea v Sunderland
Liverpool v West Ham United
Manchester United v Manchester City
Newcastle United v Fulham
Norwich City v Swansea City
Queens Park Rangers v Wigan Athletic
Reading v Southampton
Stoke City v Aston Villa
Tottenham Hotspur v Everton
West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal

Saturday, April 13th, 2013
Arsenal v Norwich City
Aston Villa v Fulham
Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur
Everton v Queens Park Rangers
Manchester City v West Bromwich Albion
Newcastle United v Sunderland
Reading v Liverpool
Southampton v West Ham United
Stoke City v Manchester United
Wigan Athletic v Swansea City

Saturday, April 20th, 2013
Fulham v Arsenal
Liverpool v Chelsea
Manchester United v Aston Villa
Norwich City v Reading
Queens Park Rangers v Stoke City
Sunderland v Everton
Swansea City v Southampton
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City
West Bromwich Albion v Newcastle United
West Ham United v Wigan Athletic

Saturday, April 27th, 2013
Arsenal v Manchester United
Aston Villa v Sunderland
Chelsea v Swansea City
Everton v Fulham
Manchester City v West Ham United
Newcastle United v Liverpool
Reading v Queens Park Rangers
Southampton v West Bromwich Albion
Stoke City v Norwich City
Wigan Athletic v Tottenham Hotspur

Saturday, May 4th, 2013
Fulham v Reading
Liverpool v Everton
Manchester United v Chelsea
Norwich City v Aston Villa
Queens Park Rangers v Arsenal
Sunderland v Stoke City
Swansea City v Manchester City
Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton
West Bromwich Albion v Wigan Athletic
West Ham United v Newcastle United

Sunday, May 12th, 2013
Arsenal v Wigan Athletic
Aston Villa v Chelsea
Everton v West Ham United
Fulham v Liverpool
Manchester United v Swansea City
Norwich City v West Bromwich Albion
Queens Park Rangers v Newcastle United
Reading v Manchester City
Stoke City v Tottenham Hotspur
Sunderland v Southampton

Sunday, May 19th, 2013
Chelsea v Everton
Liverpool v Queens Park Rangers
Manchester City v Norwich City
Newcastle United v Arsenal
Southampton v Stoke City
Swansea City v Fulham
Tottenham Hotspur v Sunderland
West Bromwich Albion v Manchester United
West Ham United v Reading
Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa
 
#4,626 ·
re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)

Fuck Tony Pulis' opinions. Shit, physical, long ball teams like Stoke have done far more damage to the development of English football than simulation ever has.

For every dive that has been committed against those cloggers I'd imagine that they've got away with just as many shirt pulls, pushes, over the top tackles and other nasty off the ball incidents. I'd accept the argument coming from pretty much any other manager, but not him, especially when it will play directly into the agenda of his team that likes defending deep and commiting risky tackles in the box.

The idea doesn't really work anyway when you consider that other teams benefit from this (retrospective bans) and not the ones that are screwed over. Maybe the FA should concentrate on improving the standard of refereeing in this country (although that would involve eradicating bias) instead of wasting their time listening to hypocritical idiots like Pulis?
 
#4,628 ·
re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)

The idea doesn't really work anyway when you consider that other teams benefit from this (retrospective bans) and not the ones that are screwed over. Maybe the FA should concentrate on improving the standard of refereeing in this country (although that would involve eradicating bias) instead of wasting their time listening to hypocritical idiots like Pulis?
Yeah but how can that be done? to Referee in the Premier League you have to go though 6 or 7 promotions starting from the Sunday League/Youth Football then the County Leagues through to the Reigonal Leagues then the Football League and finally the Premier League so they build a fair amount of experiance before even reaching the Premier League, the only thing that I can think that will help Referee's improve is maybe more psychological help that could maybe help them keep concentration throughout the 90 minutes
 
#4,859 ·
re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)

Pathetic and atrocious. Some words that spring to mind. A gutless first half performance where United looked like they didn't know how to play. Ferguson is to blame for yet another poor team selection and poor tactics. Starting Giggs? Mind-boggling. Nani was wasteful at the end with some poor crosses, Rafael was dreadful, Carrick was crap, RVP was shocking. A lot of players simply never turned up and defensively, we were all over the place. You'd think with the partnership Evans and Ferdinand had last season we'd be comfortable but nope, poor yet again and Ferguson and the team have a lot to answer for.

Sure, we improved second half and our attacking play was great but then we sort of stopped our high tempo at around the 70 minute mark and we started playing slow, which didn't cause Spurs any problems. We also continue to hoof the ball when we're losing (which is the trend now) and our players are not that physical and never get anything from it. Horrible strategy.

Why United turned up like this at home I'll never know. I'm absolutely livid with this team, we've been poor all season yet still pulling out results but the inevitable was going to happen and it did. Credit to Spurs, they were fantastic and defended really well after we got the 2nd goal.

Why Kagawa came off, who looked creative second half and much better (also scored a cracking goal) and RVP was left on I'll never know. Ferguson bringing on Hernandez in the last 2 minutes was a complete joke also.

Overall, crap performance yet again (except for a much better second half) from United and I'm not looking forward to our trip to Newcastle. The slow, zombie football has to fucking stop. Just cease it already!
 
#4,870 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Lets face it ...... United are just s

Pathetic and atrocious. Some words that spring to mind. A gutless first half performance where United looked like they didn't know how to play. Ferguson is to blame for yet another poor team selection and poor tactics. Starting Giggs? Mind-boggling. Nani was wasteful at the end with some poor crosses, Rafael was dreadful, Carrick was crap, RVP was shocking. A lot of players simply never turned up and defensively, we were all over the place. You'd think with the partnership Evans and Ferdinand had last season we'd be comfortable but nope, poor yet again and Ferguson and the team have a lot to answer for.

Sure, we improved second half and our attacking play was great but then we sort of stopped our high tempo at around the 70 minute mark and we started playing slow, which didn't cause Spurs any problems. We also continue to hoof the ball when we're losing (which is the trend now) and our players are not that physical and never get anything from it. Horrible strategy.

Why United turned up like this at home I'll never know. I'm absolutely livid with this team, we've been poor all season yet still pulling out results but the inevitable was going to happen and it did. Credit to Spurs, they were fantastic and defended really well after we got the 2nd goal.

Why Kagawa came off, who looked creative second half and much better (also scored a cracking goal) and RVP was left on I'll never know. Ferguson bringing on Hernandez in the last 2 minutes was a complete joke also.

Overall, crap performance yet again (except for a much better second half) from United and I'm not looking forward to our trip to Newcastle. The slow, zombie football has to fucking stop. Just cease it already!
That sentence I think sums up lot of my feelings as well. So unlike us but becoming more trend last few years that we just expect to roll teams over at OT so when a good team comes along they find it even easier to steam roll us, Spurs dominated that 1st half they totally deserved to be 2-0 up.

At half time Giggs went off & Kagawa went on the LW while Rooney come on to play with RvP up top, Nani stayed on RW & we played more of a gung ho 4-2-4 but SAF must been raging at HT & clearly more in our players as had been fired up but players not only problem SAF team selection, lack of clear cut tactics & shape should be called in to question here. Player’s imo were trying to play lots of different ways & then none at all at same time during that 1st half was baffling.

2nd half SAF went for it & went with 4-2-4 but thing that made me laugh was we played quick passes, lot more movement & tried playing through middle lot more then have all season long after 2nd half & what you know we created good chances from it & Kagawa had great 2nd half (why did we take him off though?) cutting in from LW.

Rooney changed game as RvP now had partner who stay with/close to him & Kagawa cutting in from LW playing around both of RvP/Rooney to link up play in final 3rd & had an out ball in Nani on the right wing.

Just made more sense to play quicker & start linking play up with forward thing passes with bit clever movement, Giggs who was so bad didn’t trouble Walker however Kagawa managed to pull Walker out & drag him out position with clever movement cos Kagawa was mixing up his game so much he got his goal from losing Walker & being our most advanced forward when he scored really well taken goal from great through ball by RvP. It was shades of Kagawa I saw at Dortmund for last 2 years.

As RvP up top on his own he needs support to bring others into play but cos no one offers his much support close by he ends up playing safe balls out wide unlike at Arsenal had runners off him & around him to play clever one twos in final 3rd with Kagawa, Rooney & RvP all moving about near each other & trying play clever quick passes to each other in final 3rd we managed to get chances.

The thing made me laugh is how dreadful CM was 1st half but same CM duo of Carrick/Scholes in 2nd half ran the show, the happens cos Spurs naturally dropped off more to protect there lead but cos Spurs now had our front 4 playing in-between the lines & those 4 all moving about with added support of both fullbacks & our 2 CM playing more advanced with quicker forward passes into feet rather then normal slow sideways safe passes have been playing, Spurs 3 man CM & back 4 found it harder to pick up our players which why CM opened up for Scholes & Carrick to start playing those passes in to our players. Think at one stage had 85% possession of ball & at time of that graphic come up in 70-75min mark i saw we had 8 players around Spurs box only 3 players who weren’t were Rio/Evans on Half way line & Anders in goal.

Simple question is why cant we play like we did in 2nd half as we did in the 1st half? I still feel that playing higher back 4 to squeeze games is a good idea but it cant be done with Rio or Vida at CB as today showed by Rio being unable to live with Bale pace for 2nd Spurs goal in all fairness Bale a bullet when his on run with bale when theres space for him to drive into the more I watch Bale this season the more I feel that his starting to understand more about having freer role & not hugging Left flank all game & switching game up to better effect.

In 2nd half of today’s games v Spurs he went for 4-2-4 but we played quicker, more higher up, CM more advanced, we played quicker balls into feet from the CM & in final 3rd played more through middle in build up play then any other time this season with clever passes not fancy flicks but general passes around corner with one twos something not done all season.

I also do understand that some players have to play cos injury problems so no other option on RW to replace Nani cos both Toni & Young out so Nani plays RW, but Evra remaining at LB (Know Evra better 2nd half but still woeful 1st half) & Giggs starting games on the LW atm are just so strange.

If SAF had to tell you his best starting 11 I reckon he wouldn’t know right now which is an big issue. I also believe if you asked SAF if he could answer what style, way we play or shape we play he 100% would not be sure himself.

As the LC win showed on Wednesday the game against Newcastle we changed to 4-3-1-2 shape to get better ball possession & more attacking players closer together in middle in final 3rd cos we were couldn’t do that v Liverpool 6 days back we had no idea how use what little ball possession we had v Liverpool & how easy Liverpool played through us & little we created even with an extra man. SAF stubborn so he fell into old habits again today picked wrong starting 11 & wrong tactics.

But he did change some of the problem at HT which is refreshing but we still lost so doesn’t change fact that cant hide away from mistakes & he shouldn’t of had to make the changes he did at HT if had got them right before the game had ticked off.

I'm hoping that SAF will say fuck it after today & release made huge mistake, screw this slow safe passing possession based game & go 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-1-2 play attacking, fast clever free flowing passing football that has made us so success under SAF. I'm hoping SAF plays front 3 of at least Kagawa, Rooney & RvP v Newcastle next weekend. If plays 3 man CM then that’s ok as wants keep more of the ball but SAF wants to play a 2 Man CM then fair enough.

Scholes/Carrick aren’t awful CM parings they very good imo & reason I think very good cos can bit of everything they can keep ball regardless of how we play but can lot more positive things like they did in 2nd half & start effecting game more simply by playing quicker passes into our front players feet, never did play safe slow passes unless route was blocked but we just recycled the move & started off again.

There is always more to take out of lose then a win as lose hits you harder & see where went wrong. Do i think SAF messed up today yes, do i think he will fix these problems yes, everybody loses PL games not the end of the world even though been made out it is. How you react after a set back that counts which is why Cluj game midweek but more importantly Newcastle away next weekend is all about.

If we played like we did in 2nd half like do from here on out this season we will be better for it. Fair play to Spurs they were brilliant in 1st half & defend very well in 2nd half, the killer 3rd Spurs goal came from there only attack in 2nd half I think which was in-between our 2 goals.

Be interesting see how SAF lines up v Cluj i reckon he will rotate again & use more squad players but more importantly is how we play after today’s lose I want to see more of that 2nd half display v spurs today from here on out if that happens I be thrilled & think play better & make winning games in this season more simpler for us.
 
#4,908 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Lets face it ...... United are just s

Congratulations Spurs on winning the Premier League, thoroughly deserved.

...oh wait, that was just their imbecile fans celebrating like that. God knows what they'd do if they won the fucking thing.

Yes, I'm a Man United fan and I ain't bitter....not a bit...ugh!

Still, Fergie's comments about injury time were fucking laughable..come on old man, sort it out!
 
#4,919 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Lets face it ...... United are just s

Legend that he is, there's times when I feel slapping Fergie. Fucking woeful team selection today.

As for Giggs *loads shotgun* come on, boy, lets go out behind the 'ol barn....it's for the best.
 
#5,305 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)



:lmao




also Pardew is called for RVP to be banned, wonder if he is doing the same for Tiote who should have seen red for his stamp/tackle on cleverley which could have done some serious damage
 
#5,318 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)

Made my day (granted I've only been up for an hour).

The only issue with retrospective banning for diving is where do you draw the line and classify what's trying to con the referee. The Suarez one yesterday is an obvious example of what needs retrospective punishment along with the Ivanovic one vs Stoke. Sometimes though it's hard to 100% say that a player is trying to con the ref by going down without contact. Sometimes when a player is charging at you and looks like taking your legs out then sometimes it's just a natural instinct to go to ground to avoid having your legs clattered and possibly injured. The Bale one yesterday for example. I'm not condoning it but Guzan charges out at Bale full speed so you could say Bale was trying to ride the challenge but then Guzan pulled out so there was no challenge. Is that trying to con a decision out of the referee? Granted it didn't help when he did is so theatrically and slid along the ground with his hands in the air appealing. Sometimes if you see a tackle coming then it's a natural reaction to draw the contact and get a foul. That's not diving if the contact comes. The problem is when the contact doesn't come though and it ends up being a really poor dive. I just wish when it did happen that they didn't appeal so strong for it when they know there's no contact. I do agree that some form of retrospective action needs to take place to send a message to cut it out but they have to be careful who they take it against and which cases.
 
#5,337 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)

Who banned me? I'm guessing it was Seabs.
 
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#5,438 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)

they paid for it with the aguero money. they could've put that money into their debts, and then slid down to a mid table club. or they buy falcao and chase champions league glory, sell falcao + make some money through champions league windfall. what they've done is better than the alternative, which would be slipping into nothingness, being consumed by debt and really becoming obsolete.

http://swissramble.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/atletico-madrid-its-mad-world.html

i'll link this again, it's a fascinating read.
 
#5,540 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)

huth would be running for around 30 minutes when everyone notices messi is gone

huth then feels there is something wrong with his shoe, and looks down, and finds out messi has been stuck on the bottom of his boot for 20 minutes and he didnt notice

:messi
 
#5,778 ·
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Winning at home is overrated anyways)

El Hadji Diouf on Steven Gerrard stating that Diouf didn't give it his all while at Liverpool.

"Steven Gerrard's words? It is jealousy," Diouf told L'Equipe. "I was the most important man at that time and I had everyone at my feet."

Really? Everyone at your feet?

Closest he'll ever have to people being at his feet is when he's going up an escalator.

Deluded twat.

EDIT: Good on Suso. I give them 3 years before Madrid come calling.
 
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