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Old 06-17-2012, 01:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Federer will never be the GOAT because he's been dominated in his career by his main rival in grand slams.

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Old 06-17-2012, 02:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Federer will never be the GOAT because he's been dominated in his career by his main rival in grand slams.

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Lol. Nadal won less grandslams. Federer won the 16 grandlslams, more than anyone, hence he is the GOAT. Nadal wont overtake him as the GOAT. hopefully
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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None of these are unpopular opinions.

And where the fuck did you pluck Cech from to go alongside Casillas and Neuer?


These are all embarrassingly bad points though. Especially the last one. cmon man



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Re the first set of points, have encountered plenty of people who have begged to differ from me on the points mentioned hence why I listed them. Reason why I lumped Cech in there is the same, come across a lot of people that seem to believe he is still the best GK in the world. IMO he may have had a case a few years back but not anymore and not for a while TBH.

Second set of points which you labelled 'embarrasing'

1) Quaresma was a very talented prospect when he first started out and I believed was going to be a hell of a player. Never happened but the potential was there IMO.
2) Raul was more of a skillful player than Morientes that I accept but as an out and out goalscorer I always thought Morientes was lethal when on form and never got the credit that Raul did.
3) Why is this embarrasing? I never said England would have won the series just that it would not have been a whitewash. England had chances to win a test in the series but due to their ability to collapse it never happened. Just as much to do with England being shite in the series as Australia being brilliant. For the record Australia would still have won the ashes and series IMO.
4) Personal preference. I think if Lee had not been injury prone he would have been an immense bowler on the level of the Aussie bowling greats before him. Thought he was a very accurate and lethal bowler when on form.
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I seen ones for wrestling, so why not one for sports?

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- Messi isn't and won't ever be the GOAT until he signle handidly wins the world cup with Argentina.
I see you're drawing comparisons between Messi and Maradona and the widely stated opinion that Maradona carried Argentina to World Cup glory. The thing is, that was a different era. The modern game is by far a more intricate game with there being an abundance of phenomenal players. That being said it's impossible for any player in the modern era to carry their team through a major tournament because the opposition is so fierce.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:27 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Lol. Nadal won less grandslams. Federer won the 16 grandlslams, more than anyone, hence he is the GOAT. Nadal wont overtake him as the GOAT. hopefully
Nadal has had Federer in his pocket for years

He also hasn't finished his career and could well bank another 7 or 8 slams. He's also had much more competition than Federer had when he was winning a huge chunk of his slams - i.e. Fed himself, as well as Djokovic, even Murray is a better player than Roddick, JCF and, erm, whoever else was losing in finals.

Winning the most doesn't automatically make you the GOAT either, not many people consider Schumacher a better driver than Senna despite the latter winning less titles.

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Re the first set of points, have encountered plenty of people who have begged to differ from me on the points mentioned hence why I listed them. Reason why I lumped Cech in there is the same, come across a lot of people that seem to believe he is still the best GK in the world. IMO he may have had a case a few years back but not anymore and not for a while TBH.

Second set of points which you labelled 'embarrasing'

1) Quaresma was a very talented prospect when he first started out and I believed was going to be a hell of a player. Never happened but the potential was there IMO.
2) Raul was more of a skillful player than Morientes that I accept but as an out and out goalscorer I always thought Morientes was lethal when on form and never got the credit that Raul did.
3) Why is this embarrasing? I never said England would have won the series just that it would not have been a whitewash. England had chances to win a test in the series but due to their ability to collapse it never happened. Just as much to do with England being shite in the series as Australia being brilliant. For the record Australia would still have won the ashes and series IMO.
4) Personal preference. I think if Lee had not been injury prone he would have been an immense bowler on the level of the Aussie bowling greats before him. Thought he was a very accurate and lethal bowler when on form.
Cech has been pants post helmet, he's gone back to being shit now after a brief return to form which coincided with RDM taking over at Chelsea.

The potential was never there for Quaresma to be scoring 50-60 goals a season.

Morientes was nowhere near Raul. Ever. Even despite being underrated by Madrid.

England were pants but that Australia side had the talent to whitewash anyone and were at the peak of their game.

Suggesting Lee was a better bowler than McGrath is laughable and doesn't even deserve a retort.


I actually agree with a fair few of your other opinions, especially the one's I highlighted in my last post, and the rest are arguable, but these one's are really just silly to me.
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Nadal has had Federer in his pocket for years

He also hasn't finished his career and could well bank another 7 or 8 slams. He's also had much more competition than Federer had when he was winning a huge chunk of his slams - i.e. Fed himself, as well as Djokovic, even Murray is a better player than Roddick, JCF and, erm, whoever else was losing in finals.

Winning the most doesn't automatically make you the GOAT either, not many people consider Schumacher a better driver than Senna despite the latter winning less titles.
I said hopefully he does not overtake Federer. Yeah that is true but i am sure you consider Federer to be the GOAT atm. He was incredible. He owned his opponents in the finals. The only one who could challenge him at that time was Marat Safin.

Murray is not better than Hewitt or Safin when they were in their prime. Not yet.
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I said hopefully he does not overtake Federer. Yeah that is true but i am sure you consider Federer to be the GOAT atm. He was incredible. He owned his opponents in the finals. The only one who could challenge him at that time was Marat Safin.

Murray is not better than Hewitt or Safin when they were in their prime. Not yet.
I'm not decided, but only because Nadal is years away from the end of his career.

Hewitt fair enough, but his prime didn't last very long. As for Safin, I loved the guy, but he was very inconsistent across all the surfaces. Murray however is a consistent threat in the latter stages of at least 3 of the slams, even if one that the top 3 are nearly always able to overcome (which is more to their credit and than it is to his detriment).
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I see you're drawing comparisons between Messi and Maradona and the widely stated opinion that Maradona carried Argentina to World Cup glory. The thing is, that was a different era. The modern game is by far a more intricate game with there being an abundance of phenomenal players. That being said it's impossible for any player in the modern era to carry their team through a major tournament because the opposition is so fierce.
The point is, is that Messi has never stepped up in an International tournament like Pele, maradona etc have. He has got plenty of time to do this of course, but until he does, he is not the GOAT.
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