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Old 04-06-2013, 08:05 PM   #4161 (permalink)
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This thread could really do with more posters, it's always so quiet after a big tournament.
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We need a talking point or something until Monte Carlo.

So, how well will Nadal do during Clay season?

Who do you see as the biggest threat to Nadal & Djokovic at RG?

Now we are on to clay season, what will the top 8 look like by the end of the season in your opinion?

Who is the most over-rated player in tennis?

Who is the most under-rated player in tennis?
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So, how well will Nadal do during Clay season?
- I think he'll continue to be the frontrunner during clay season. I don't think he'll be as dominant as in previous years, but i still expect him to win most of the events he enters

Who do you see as the biggest threat to Nadal & Djokovic at RG?
- Del Potro & Federer. Del Potro is a good clay courter, as he has the power to hit through the surface. He was unlucky not to reach the semi finals last year, but he seems to be over that mental block that Federer had over him. Ferrer can't beat Djokovic, Nadal or Federer, and there's still a question mark over Murray. Federer's clay skills are under-rated imo, and he would have had more success on that surface if it wasn't for Nadal. Despite him being on the decline he's still a threat.

Now we are on to clay season, what will the top 8 look like by the end of the season in your opinion?

1. Djokovic- He'll remain number 1
2. Nadal- I'm gambling on Nadal here, but if he returns to full form i think he'll finish #2. He has no points to defend after Wimbledon whilst Murray has a lot after RG.
3. Murray- #2 if Nadal doesn't reach full form.
4. Federer- I think he'll be good enough in all slams to remain #4
5. Del Potro- He's proven he can beat top guys, so it's about remaining consistent
6. Ferrer- I don't see him having the year he had in 2012, but still good enough to finish #6
7. Berdych- Berdych will continue to have a solid year, but the players in front will have a better year.
8. Tsonga- Right now Tsonga is on higher level from the players below him, but lower than the players above.

Who is the most over-rated player in tennis?
- Tomic. I don't think he's anything that special really.

Who is the most under-rated player in tennis?- Simon. Not a fan of the way he plays tennis, but i think he's a better player than given credit for tbh.
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So, how well will Nadal do during Clay season?: I think he'll win probably around half of the tournaments on clay this year. I think he and Djokovic will pretty much share them out.

Who do you see as the biggest threat to Nadal & Djokovic at RG? : Probably Del Potro. I think he's pretty good on the clay and he has shown he's getting better and better right now, he's almost right up there with the big four but just not quite as he hasn't shown he can get the job done consistently. I think he could have a great tournament though and could cause a major upset if he's playing very well. I would have said Federer but I'm just not sure he's at that level now.

Now we are on to clay season, what will the top 8 look like by the end of the season in your opinion?: I think it'll look like this:

1. Novak Djokovic: I don't think he can be caught this year.

2. Andy Murray: He has almost nothing to defend over the clay season, so can pick up a lot of points there if he plays well, and Nadal has quite a few. He does have a lot after RG but I think the gap will be big enough to keep him at 2.

3. Rafael Nadal: I think he'll get quite near to Murray, but won't quite pass him. He has nothing to defend after Wimbledon, so he's bound to pick up a large number of points around there.

4. Roger Federer: I think the gap between the top five and the rest is pretty big so he maybe won't drop too far, he could end as number 5 though. The rest of the top ten might bridge the gap on Federer though.

5. Juan Martin Del Potro: He'll pick up more and more points as the season goes on as he's improving right now, with just a little more consistency at the highest level he'll be able to break into the top four next year.

6. David Ferrer: He's consistent in his results, but doesn't win enough to make a serious impact into the top five towards the end of the year where the likes of Del Potro will make his move.

7. Tomas Berdych: Can be very good, but sometimes can't be very good. His results in certain tournaments will keep him inside the top eight.

8. Jo Wilfred Tsonga: I'm not actually too sure about this one, I'm not sure if he'll finish inside the top eight. His results are random, he can win, he can lose without really much of a fuss. If he continues losing in the early rounds of big tournaments he might not finish in the top eight.

^^^^So pretty much like that, but with Murray number two and Nadal three.

Who is the most over-rated player in tennis? I would probably agree with Tomic. I don't see anything really special about the guy. Or maybe Goffin, I remember he was hyped last year as being one who would break through and I don't really see the talent there either.

Who is the most under-rated player in tennis? Baghdadis maybe, when he's on, he really is a threat to a lot of players. Simon is like Andy Murray but 10 x worse. He doesn't pose any kind of major threat to top players. I can't think of many players who are underrated to be honest.
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So, how well will Nadal do during Clay season?
Very well, probably as well as last year tbh. I'm glad he took his time instead of rushing back. Indian Wells was a big sign of how he's going to do. Although he didn't play Novak or Murray, he blitzed Federer and came through in typical Rafa fashion against Del Potro. I think Novak is his biggest threat on clay although I'm curious to see if Murray's improved game continues on clay.

Who do you see as the biggest threat to Nadal & Djokovic at RG?
Sadly no one unless Murray performs well in the build up. I still have question marks over Del Po over five sets against Rafa or Novak.

Now we are on to clay season, what will the top 8 look like by the end of the season in your opinion?
1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Del Potro
7. Berdych
8. Gasquet

Think it'll be close between Berdych & Del Po especially but I think Gasquet will topple the too inconsistent Tsonga.

Who is the most over-rated player in tennis?
Probably Tsonga. People still expect him to be in grand slam semis but apart from when Rafa went out last year at Wimbledon he's not been in one since. His form's dropped and he's become way too inconsistent. Maybe overrated's not the best word but people expect too much from him, Del Po to an extent too. As great as Tsonga can be to watch, he can be a disaster too, which is becoming more often unfortunately.

Who is the most under-rated player in tennis?
At the moment, probably Gasquet. His technique, backhand especially is phenomenal. He's moving up the rankings slowly and getting closer to the top 8. He's far more consistent than Tsonga and boy can he fight. When you compare the two, they're so different but this is a tussle that'll be fun to watch as the year goes on as I'm sure Gasquet will get closer to taking his place in the top 8.
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Thats more like it from Tsonga. 6-3,6-3,6-0 victory over Juan Monaco.

Played an excellent match. One of his better performances this year, and showing improvements on Clay which is good to see.
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Team GB come from 2-0 down to take the tie 2-3. Good comeback from them!

I would agree with Nige when he says that Tsonga is pretty overrated at the moment too actually. I wouldn't have said so a couple of years ago but he's really declined and his performances are so sporadic now. He can play great, but then he can play shocking, and now more often than now he's not producing the results which could result in a slide down the rankings this year if he's not careful.
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Who would pass Tsonga though?

Tipsarevic hasn't looked too good this year, Gasquet doesn't do well in slams, Cilic is inconsistent, Monaco has sucked so far, Raonic i don't see, Nishikori is always injured. The rest are too far away.

Despite being very up and down over the past 12 months, Tsonga has still remained in the top 8 and imo will stay there this year.
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Yeh I guess I see what you mean. Right now, the difference between the top eight and others is pretty big. Who knows who could come through this year though, there's still a long while left. And if someone ups their game, and Tsonga stays at his level, he might find they sneak up and take his spot.
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Tsonga is pretty much on his own level atm. He's better than those behind him, but behind those ahead of him.

If i was to divide the top 8 into levels...

Djokovic
Murray
Nadal
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Federer
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Del Potro
Berdych
Ferrer
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Tsonga
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Federer you could argue belongs with the top 3.

But i see improvements with Tsonga. He's winning more without playing that well.I'm a bit concerned that he might not get away with that as often during clay season, but we'll see. This year he's lost to...

Djokovic- Not shame
Federer- No Shame
Sijsling- Igor played a very good match, but this was a pretty bad loss
Llodra- This isn't as bad as it looks. I think Llodra has the game to cause Tsonga problems despite their h2h
Cilic- Not an awful loss by any means.

But your right in saying that he has to be carefull. If a player like Gasquet, Tipsarevic, Cilic, Raonic, Almagro, or Nishikori steps up then Jo's ranking will be in danger. However i don't see that happening at this point in time.
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So, how well will Nadal do during Clay season?
Very well, probably as well as last year tbh. I'm glad he took his time instead of rushing back. Indian Wells was a big sign of how he's going to do. Although he didn't play Novak or Murray, he blitzed Federer and came through in typical Rafa fashion against Del Potro. I think Novak is his biggest threat on clay although I'm curious to see if Murray's improved game continues on clay.

Who do you see as the biggest threat to Nadal & Djokovic at RG?
Sadly no one unless Murray performs well in the build up. I still have question marks over Del Po over five sets against Rafa or Novak.

Now we are on to clay season, what will the top 8 look like by the end of the season in your opinion?
1. Djokovic
2. Murray
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Del Potro
7. Berdych
8. Gasquet

Think it'll be close between Berdych & Del Po especially but I think Gasquet will topple the too inconsistent Tsonga.

Who is the most over-rated player in tennis?
Probably Tsonga. People still expect him to be in grand slam semis but apart from when Rafa went out last year at Wimbledon he's not been in one since. His form's dropped and he's become way too inconsistent. Maybe overrated's not the best word but people expect too much from him, Del Po to an extent too. As great as Tsonga can be to watch, he can be a disaster too, which is becoming more often unfortunately.

Who is the most under-rated player in tennis?
At the moment, probably Gasquet. His technique, backhand especially is phenomenal. He's moving up the rankings slowly and getting closer to the top 8. He's far more consistent than Tsonga and boy can he fight. When you compare the two, they're so different but this is a tussle that'll be fun to watch as the year goes on as I'm sure Gasquet will get closer to taking his place in the top 8.
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