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TBH, i think Djokovic takes that match on most ocassions. Once he gets going, Murray doesn't have an answer. For Murray, it's starting well and not letting Djokovic get into the match

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Djokovic takes it on most occasions against anyone tbf. Murray's probably his toughest test though minus Clay Courts.

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Djokovic takes it on most occasions against anyone tbf. Murray's probably his toughest test though minus Clay Courts.
Yeah, i'll agree with that especially on hard courts. The matches are always close, but i reckon Djokovic wins them most of the time.

I also came across this stat. Nadal's record against the current top 10

Djokovic: 19-14
Federer: 19-10
Murray: 13-5
Ferrer: 17-4
Berdych: 13-3
Del Potro: 8-3
Tsonga: 7-3
Tipsarevic: 3-0
Gasquet: 10-0
Almagro: 9-0

Thats pretty incredible, even though a lot of them will be on clay

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A lot of them were on clay, I saw a non clay one for rafa, and it was much much closer for the majority of the opponenets.
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Clay doesn't count with Rafa, just like Grass with Sampras

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There's only two tournaments a year usually that players enter on grass, so that's like 12 matches maximumu, provided they win both tournaments os most players don't even play for more than 5-7. There's like 5-6 tournaments you can enter a year on clay. That's like 30-40 matches so gives way more opportunities to play more opponents.
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There's only two tournaments a year usually that players enter on grass, so that's like 12 matches maximumu, provided they win both tournaments os most players don't even play for more than 5-7. There's like 5-6 tournaments you can enter a year on clay. That's like 30-40 matches so gives way more opportunities to play more opponents.
I was just joking lol

Does anyone on here think there should be a grass masters? I definately do, as there's masters on every other surface. Scrap one of the american masters and have a grass masters instead

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Tis a bit odd how there's only real Wimbledon that matters for the grass court season.

Djokovic will probably have a winning record over Nadal when all is said and done. Assuming Rafa plays enough tournaments of course. When was the last time he played Murray? I imagine that H2H will swing in the opponents favour too. The Federer H2H is fantastic though.

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I don't see why the Australian Open can't be pushed back a few weeks seeing it's at a really hot point of their summer season. It'll give them more time to prepare for the year. The French Open & Wimbledon being close together is bad as it gives little prep time for Wimbledon or a Master series which would be a great idea. The poor weather in Paris & London, then New York means they have to be be pushed close together, leaving no time for a Masters. Queens is a big tournament and that could be altered perhaps. It's stupid that after the Australian is a clay court tournament and there's several hard court tournaments. Unfortunately there's not a lot they can do due to the seasons.
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If you exclude the clay matches between Fed and Nadal, the H2H would 8-7 in favour of Federer, lol. Shows how good Nadal is on clay. Best clay court player ever, really hard to argue against that.

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When was the last time he played Murray?
It was in 2011 in Toyko. Yeah it's been a long time since they faced each other.

There are many people who now think Murray is better than Nadal and I think that's quite unfair. I mean we know that before his injury, Nadal was the 2nd best player in the world and he just came back from injury. We have yet to see this new Murray fare against Nadal. I know Murray has improved a lot since Nadal got injured and this injury could affect Nadal(although that doesn't seem to be the case so far) but there is still possibility that Nadal is still better than Murray.
We just have to wait and see. This is a match i'm really very interested to see honestly, I'm really interested to see how this new Murray would do against Nadal. One thing for sure is that their matches are going to be much closer than they were before.

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When was the last time he played Murray? I imagine that H2H will swing in the opponents favour too.
No, definitely not. There is quite a big difference in the H2H atm. 13-5 in favour of Nadal, that's a lot. Even if this new Murray is better than Nadal, there is no way Murray can have a winning record against Nadal when all is said and done. There is not going to be much difference between them anyway, so you would expect Rafa to still have few wins against him.

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I was just joking lol

Does anyone on here think there should be a grass masters? I definately do, as there's masters on every other surface. Scrap one of the american masters and have a grass masters instead
I would love to see that happen, it would also make the grass season last longer. But unfortunately, you and I both know that this is not going to happen anytime soon.





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