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The courts are the same for everyone tbf. You should have a strategy to win depending on the court you're playing on if you want to contend with the elite players.

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Chardy through in 4 sets over Seppi.

If Murray gets through, wonder if Chardy can cause another upset.



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Murray is just going to grind Chardy out, and push the ball back until he makes the mistake.


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Murray is just going to grind Chardy out, and push the ball back until he makes the mistake.


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Yup, that seems like the most logical way to play him if he comes out firing on all cylinders. Murray gets so many balls back he'll miss far more than he did against Del Potro and Seppi.

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The courts are the same for everyone tbf. You should have a strategy to win depending on the court you're playing on if you want to contend with the elite players.
Whilst that is true, do you want every player to have a defensive mindset? To be an elite player now it's more about Athleticsm, rather than ability.

I'm not saying they should have the courts like they did in the 90's, or we'll have a serve fest. Just have a mixed bag, so no style is favoured over the other.

In the 90's it was attack. Today it's defense.

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nazzac, How many times are you going to bring that up again? You discussed about that a lot times already, in this thread actually.





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If the courts are slower, all players should train in a way which lets them deal with that to be honest. Murray and Djokovic obviously work very hard on training to be able to get a lot of balls back which makes them good at being defensive, that isn't to say they can't play aggressively. Maybe some of the more of the guys with aggressive playing styles could do the same. Defensive play is obviously a huge part of being a tennis player, they should train for that so they can get the balls back other players can.

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So do you think that slow courts are the way to go?

I personally would like some variety, but thats just me. I don't want every match to turn into a grindfest. It's stupid that one of the biggest hitters on tour can't get winners on a hard court because the courts are too slow.

To answer you Samoon, i only remember discussing it once, last year. I don't know about any other time, but i could be wrong. I just want to hear your opinions on the matter, that is all.

Murray looks to be heading to victory. No surprise there. Serena has just started, so i'll be watching that

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I don't think Chardy has any shot against Murray. He's been playing exceptional tennis since the Olympics last summer. Then again I didn't think Chardy had a shot against Del Potro either. This whole "let it fly" approach with the forehand has paid off up until now, but Murray is on a completely different level.

I for one am tired of seeing the same old faces in the final four of mens tennis. I'm sick of the Federer/Djokovic/Murray/Nadal final four. Granted Nadal isn't there this time around, so we'll see a new face reach the semifinals, but that doesn't seem like it's going to stop a Federer/Djokovic or Djokovic/Murray final.
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Yeh, very straight forward for Murray. Simon obviously wasn't moving his best and the key for Murray was to keep his concentration which he managed to do which is good. His matches have all been pretty short so far and as well as Chardy is playing, I think Murray should come through that quite comfortably.

I wouldn't say all courts should be the same speed but slower courts match what is required for the modern day player. Players now should be all around athletes, they should be able to retrieve very well, be aggressive when they need to, serve well, volley well, basically be all rounder's. That's what the best players are because they've adapted to the court no matter which it is. They are obviously slower than they were a while ago but players should be able to work to play well on them.

It's not like the faster grass courts are unplayable to the more defensive player. In the past couple of years we've had Nadal and Djokovic as champions and Murray as a finalist, they've managed a faster courts despite not being as aggressive and powerful as say a Tsonga, so it should work the other way round too. Tennis is now having players at the top focused on being the very best athlete they can be. Most players at the top don't just 'grind' out wins with defensive play, they use variety which is what it's all about.

You see Djokovic, Nadal and Murray at the top and you clearly see the work they put into being that physical and it works, they beat the other players. It's obvious to me, that to be as good, other players must do the same. Forget about court speed, that's what's required.

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