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Old 01-10-2013, 07:21 AM   #3061 (permalink)
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Didn't you say you would expect him to reach the final in one of the slams if he plays well? Must be a mistake by me then, my bad.
I said he could possibly reach the final at Wimbledon if the stars align for him, because grass is his best surface. Very Unlikely, i know.

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But he barely plays well often, he is very incosistent. One match he plays well, the other he doesn't. Not sure how can you consider him as a dark horse when he is so incosistent.
I never really classed him as a true darkhorse, just a borderline Darkhorse. You never know, he might get all his shit matches out of the way before facing a top 4 member

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No. He is not as good as them in his peak form. If the top players play well against him, they will beat him even when Tsonga plays well because their peak level is much higher than Tsonga's. If the top players have a bad day or are playing average then Tsonga(on form) would probably beat them.
I think you misunderstood what i wrote. Peak form Tsonga is as good as the top players normally. Not when they are on peak form.

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And when was the last time he has beaten one of them? Quite a while ago.
That is true. But he was bad for most of last year tbh. The RG QF destroyed him mentally i think

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Tbf, in Wimbledon, he was lucky that he didn't face one of the top players in the quarters though(Rosol eliminated Nadal) and those kind of upsets happens once in a blue moon. And him putting 2 great performances in a row is still unlikely.
Btw, it is not only about putting amazing performances, it is also about dealing with the pressure, like when playing in the final, there is a lot of pressure on you and it is really hard to cope with that, etc, if you get what I mean.
That is true, and thats what i was getting at really. If it happens again, then it'll open for him a little more. The Pressure of a final is something Jo has faced before, so it wouldn't be the first time in a final for him, although there will be a lot of pressue still.

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I disagree with that, Berdych is a better player than Tsonga(he is in much better form too atm), he is much more consistent and I would say poses a bigger threat to the top 4( for example, he eliminated Federer in the quarters last year and didn't play badly against Murray in the semis)
But Berdych is also very prone to a shock exit. Plus, for some reason he plays his best against Federer. I don't see him reaching the semis unless he draws Federer in his Quarter again. I'm not saying Tsonga isn't prone, because he is too. I just class them in the same category when it comes down to choosing AO favourites, although your probs right in saying Berdych is higher up than Tsonga because he's in better form.

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You only enjoyed that match because Tsonga won.

Seriously though, that match was really entertaining to watch.
Tsonga winning made it better, but that was an awesome match
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:35 PM   #3062 (permalink)
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What the hell is a borderline dark horse and true dark horse? There is no different dark horse, and you've always said Tsonga was a dark horse?
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When Samoon asked about Darkhorses, i said Del Potro, Ferrer & maybe Tsonga , Not for definate.

And the borderline darkhorse is just some shit i made up. Meaning, it really depends on a lot of things like form, the draw etc... Some may see him as a darkhorse, some may not. A potential darkhorse if you will.

A True Darkhorse is someone like Del Potro & maybe Ferrer, who really can't be debated. Some other shit i made up, but i had to get my point across some way.

Anyway, draw is being made in just over 1 hour
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:04 PM   #3064 (permalink)
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Full mens draw

[1]Djokovic v Mathieu
Harrison v Giraldo
Qualifier v Lopez
Troicki v [31]Stepanek
[27]Querrey v Qualifier
Qualifier v Baker
Kamke v Cipolla
Qualifier v [15]Wawrinka

[11]Monaco v Kuznetsov
Anderson v Lorenzi
Malisse v Andujar
Goffin v [22]Verdasco
[26]Melzer v Kukushkin
Fognini v Bautista-Agut
Qualifier v Rufin
Russell v [5]Berdych

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[4]Ferrer v Rochus
Karlovic v Qualifier
Millman v Ito
Ramos v [28]Baghdatis
[23]Youzhny v Ebden
Donskoy v Ungur
Qualifier v Berlocq
Hanescu v [16]Nishikori

[10]Almagro v Qualifier
Gimeno-Traver v Kubot
Phau v Devvarman
Bolelli v [24]Janowicz
[32]Benneteau v Dimitrov
Roger-Vasselin v Qualifier
Lacko v Muller
Hewitt v [8]Tipsarevic

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[6]Del Potro v Qualifier
Bedene v Becker
Chardy v Qualifier
Zemlja v [30]Granollers
[21]Seppi v Zeballos
Sijsling v Istomin
Garcia-Lopez v Qualifier
Matosevic v [12]Cilic

[14]Simon v Volandri
Robredo v Levine
Lu v Ramirez-Hidalgo
Monfils v [18]Dolgopolov
[25]F.Mayer v Williams
Qualifier v Stakhovsky
Sousa v Smith
Haase v [3]Murray

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[7]Tsonga v Llodra
Soeda v Saville
Duckworth v Mitchell
Kavcic v [29]Bellucci
[19]Haas v Nieminen
Dodig v Wu
Ouanna v Falla
Montanes v [9]Gasquet

[13]Raonic v Hajek
Qualifier v Rosol
Qualifier v Pella
Darcis v [17]Kohlschreiber
[27]Klizan v Qualifier
Tomic v L.Mayer
Qualifier v Davydenko
Paire v [2]Federer


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Slava will most likely play Serena in the 3rd round if she gets there. Slava is fucked
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Hewitt/Tipsarevic. OUCH. Hewitt can cause an upset though. Hope my boy Baghdatis has a comfortable first round win.
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Hahahaha WHAT DID I SAY. I knew Hewitt woud get a top player in the first round
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Pick of the first round matches for me...

Federer-Paire
Tsonga-Llodra
Hewitt-Tipsarevic
Monfils-Dolgopolov


Looking at the mens draw i'm quit confident in my favourites doing pretty well. Tsonga & Del Po look pretty good for the Quarters, and Kei has a great shot at the 4th round, and possibly the Quarters. He has beaten Ferrer before, and had a good run here last year. But 'll be happy for Kei to reach the 4th round here.

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Full Womens draw....


Victoria Azarenka (BLR) [1] vs. Monica Niculescu (ROU)
Eleni Daniilidou (GRE) vs. Karolina Pliskova (CZE)
Qualifier vs. Sofia Arvidsson (SWE)
Jamie Hampton (USA) vs. Urszula Radwanska (POL) [31]
Varvara Lepchenko (USA) [21] vs. Polona Hercog (SLO)
Caroline Garcia (FRA) vs. Elena Vesnina (RUS)
Mathilde Johansson (FRA) vs. Qualifier
Silvia Soler-Espinosa (ESP) vs. Roberta Vinci (ITA) [16]

Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) [10] vs. Sabine Lisicki (GER)
Andrea Hlavackova (CZE) vs. Donna Vekic (CRO)
Qualifier vs. Lauren Davis (USA)
Qualifier vs. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (RUS) [24]
Su-Wei Hsieh (TPE) [26] vs. Lara Arruabarrena-Vecino (ESP)
Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) vs.Lourdes Dominguez Lino (ESP)
Yulia Putintseva (KAZ) vs. Christina McHale (USA)
Carla Suarez Navarro (ESP) vs. Sara Errani (ITA) [7]
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Serena Williams (USA) [3] vs. Edina Gallovits-Hall (ROU)
Magdalena Rybarikova (SVK) vs. Garbine Muguruza (ESP)
Ayumi Morita (JPN) vs. Anna Tatishvili (GEO)
Annika Beck (GER) vs. Yaroslava Shvedova (KAZ) [28]
Yanina Wickmayer (BEL) [20] vs. Jarmila Gajdosova (AUS)
Qualifier vs. Jana Cepelova (SVK)
Rebecca Marino (CAN) vs. Shuai Peng (CHN)
Vania King (USA) vs. Maria Kirilenko (RUS) [14]

Nadia Petrova (RUS) [12] vs. Kimiko Date-Krumm (JPN)
Shahar Peer (ISR) vs. Alexandra Panova (RUS)
Maria-Teresa Torro-Flor (ESP) vs. Bojana Jovanovski (SRB)
Mirjana Lucic-Baroni (CRO) vs. Lucie Safarova (CZE) [17]
Sloane Stephens (USA) [29] vs. Simona Halep (ROU)
Kristina Mladenovic (FRA) vs. Timea Babos (HUN)
Melanie Oudin (USA) vs. Laura Robson (GBR)
Francesca Schiavone (ITA) vs. Petra Kvitova (CZE) [8]
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Na Li (CHN) [6] vs. Sesil Karatantcheva (KAZ)
Pauline Parmentier (FRA) vs. Olga Govortsova (BLR)
Kristyna Pliskova (CZE) vs. Sacha Jones (AUS)
Coco Vandeweghe (USA) vs. Sorana Cirstea (ROU) [27]
Julia Goerges (GER) [18] vs. Qualifier
Romina Oprandi (SUI) vs. Tsvetana Pironkova (BUL)
Yuxuan Zhang (CHN) vs. Jie Zheng (CHN)
Kai-Chen Chang (TPE) vs. Samantha Stosur (AUS) [9]

Ana Ivanovic (SRB) [13] vs. Melinda Czink (HUN)
Qualifier vs. Daniela Hantuchova (SVK)
Qualifier vs. Qualifier
Johanna Larsson (SWE) vs. Jelena Jankovic (SRB) [22]
Mona Barthel (GER) [32] vs. Ksenia Pervak (KAZ)
Heather Watson (GBR) vs. Alexandra Cadantu (ROU)
Irina-Camelia Begu (ROU) vs. Arantxa Rus (NED)
Bojana Bobusic (AUS) vs. Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) [4]
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Angelique Kerber (GER) [5] vs. Elina Svitolina (UKR)
Lucie Hradecka (CZE) vs. Kiki Bertens (NED)
Casey Dellacqua (AUS) vs. Madison Keys (USA)
Stefanie Voegele (SUI) vs. Tamira Paszek (AUT) [30]
Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) [19] vs. Qualifier
Camila Giorgi (ITA) vs. Stephanie Foretz Gacon (FRA)
Qualifier vs. Olivia Rogowska (AUS)
Anabel Medina Garrigues (ESP) vs. Marion Bartoli (FRA) [11]

Dominika Cibulkova (SVK) [15] vs. Ashleigh Barty (AUS)
Mandy Minella (LUX) vs. Qualifier
Kirsten Flipkens (BEL) vs. Nina Bratchikova (RUS)
Chanelle Scheepers (RSA) vs. Klara Zakopalova (CZE) [23]
Venus Williams (USA) [25] vs. Galina Voskoboeva (KAZ)
Alize Cornet (FRA) vs. Marina Erakovic (NZL)
Petra Martic (CRO) vs. Misaki Doi (JPN)
Olga Puchkova (RUS) vs. Maria Sharapova (RUS) [2]


Tough first round match for Slava, but if she gets through that, then she'll be on for the 3rd round i think.

Sharapova might be in trouble. Could face Venus in the 3rd round. Wozniacki is also in trouble because Lisicki can be dangerous. Thats a good first round match
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Federer might have Davydenko 2nd round fuck
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I never really classed him as a true darkhorse, just a borderline Darkhorse. You never know, he might get all his shit matches out of the way before facing a top 4 member
He would probably face a top player in the quarters, and that would mean he needs to put 3 excellent performances in a row, which is very unlikely.


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That is true, and thats what i was getting at really. If it happens again, then it'll open for him a little more. The Pressure of a final is something Jo has faced before, so it wouldn't be the first time in a final for him, although there will be a lot of pressue still.
Yeah he has faced the pressure before but there will be still a lot of pressure which I don't think he would be able to cope with that.

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But Berdych is also very prone to a shock exit. Plus, for some reason he plays his best against Federer. I don't see him reaching the semis unless he draws Federer in his Quarter again. I'm not saying Tsonga isn't prone, because he is too. I just class them in the same category when it comes down to choosing AO favourites, although your probs right in saying Berdych is higher up than Tsonga because he's in better form.
He has beaten Murray a few times as well. I think he would have a chance against Murray if Murray was in his drraw.
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Sharapova might be in trouble. Could face Venus in the 3rd round.
Meh, I doubt Venus would be much of a threat to Maria tbh.

As for the draw, not really easy for Federer. He might be facing Davydenko in the 2nd round and he is in really good form atm so it will be hard. He also might be facing Tomic in the 3rd round and he would probably be facing Tsonga in the quarters. Federer/Tsonga should be a really enjoyable match, really hope Tsonga makes it into the quarters.

Murray/Del Potro should be awesome, if they both make it into the quarters(which they probably will),this will be their first match in a slam that makes it even more exciting.

Djokovic should be able to reach the semis easily. Don't think Berdych would give much of a trouble to him tbh.

Sucks to see Hewitt drawing to Tipsaveric in the first round. Can't see him win.
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Probably 5 set marathon
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