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Old 01-09-2013, 09:37 AM   #3051 (permalink)
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:42 AM   #3052 (permalink)
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I don't think I would ever class Tsonga as a 'dark horse' for a slam title because it would mean him putting in two or three incredible performances in a row, which I don't think he's capable of doing now. He can sometimes create one amazing match to make people think he can go far, but he doesn't seem to be able to keep going and sustain it.

I think he's capable of creating a shock win in a slam, but I don't think he's capable of winning one. If he learned to play the incredible matches he's sometimes had regularly then sure, but he can't.

I can't wait for the Aussie Open. I think it'll be either Murray or Djokovic to win, hopefully they are on opposite sides of the draw so they can both make the final.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:03 AM   #3053 (permalink)
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The draw could open up for Tsonga though to make it to the semis, like it did at Wimbledon. Therefore he wouldn't have to sustain a great level for 2 weeks or 1 week as he's still capable of seeing off the players he should beat, when he isn't playing all that well or playing average. The stars will have to align for him, sure. But there is always a chance he could pull an amazing performance in the semi finals or final.

Anyways, i never really full classed him as a darkhorse. I said maybe, depending on his run up into the tournament. But he got injured, so i'm unsure what to expect from him in Melbourne. I'll be happy with the Quarter Finals.

I think the only player you could really class as a darkhorse is Del Potro. He's won a slam before, He's beaten the top players before, and he offers more of a threat to the top players than say, Ferrer. Ferrer is a good player, but doesn't pose muhc of a threat to any top 4 member off clay. Berdych is in the same boat as Tsonga really.

To choose 2 out of the top 4 seeds to play the final, i would choose Federer-Djokovic. Their matches are really good. See Wimbledon & Tour Finals for examples. I prefer that match up than a Murray-Djokovic match. The problem is with them 2 is that they cancel each other out so they end up having long rallys all the time.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:27 PM   #3054 (permalink)
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I guess it depends on what tennis you enjoy. I really quite like long rallies, I like seeing thought put into play, not just big shot after big shot but the ability to work a point, gain an advantage to either hit a winner or force an error. Murray and Djokovic are both incredibly good at that which is why I love their matches.

There's nothing worse than watching two ballbashers, or one ballbasher on a bad day where they end of going for shots all the time (like they usually do) but missing a whole lot of them, or one guy getting blown off the court with power because I find it boring. You can hit so many winners that it just doesn't look impressive to me after a while.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:43 PM   #3055 (permalink)
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I don't mind rally's, but at times with Murray & Djokovic it seems like they are going nowhere. They are too simular, so end up cancelling each other out a lot of times. There's only so much of that i can take before getting bored. They are capable of having really good matches, as i enjoyed their AO SF last year, but some times the matches aren't great like The US Open final. If they play each other in the final, i'll watch it no doubt, because i'm a tennis fan. It's just not my desired final if you get me.

The matches i find best are the style clashes. Nadal-Federer for example is a great clash of styles, and thats what made their matches great. 2 attacking players playing well seem to entertain me more than 2 defensive players playing well. I enjoyed Federer vs Tsonga at Wimbledon 2011 for example.

But you like the Murray-Djokovic matches, which is fine. I'm not going to tell you to think otherwise. Everyone is different after all
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:49 PM   #3056 (permalink)
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I did it twice lol.

on another note, i watched a video of Shvedova & another player doing the skywalk in Auckland. This person asked them "which is scarier. Doing the skywalk or playing a tennis match in front of a crowd?"

Left me thinking, She should have asked Slava "What's scarier. Doing the skywalk or having a match point"
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Hewitt won again in that Exho tournament, beating Berdych in straights. Shame he's going to be battered by Del Potro in the final haha
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My expectations for Tsonga at the Aussie open is a Quarter Final finish. My expectations for him this season is to finish top 8, and win a few small titles. Not much different from your expectations, so if i have too high expectations for him, you guys must have too.
Didn't you say you would expect him to reach the final in one of the slams if he plays well? Must be a mistake by me then, my bad.

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I said he's a darkhorse because there is always a question mark over him. I would certainly say he's dangerous when he's on form, but not when he isn't. I said that he's a darkhorse if he plays well, and i don't see why not. If he's not playing well, then yeah, he's not a darkhorse.
But he barely plays well often, he is very incosistent. One match he plays well, the other he doesn't. Not sure how can you consider him as a dark horse when he is so incosistent.

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And, when did i ever say he was a top player? The top players are Djokovic, Murray, Federer and maybe Nadal depending on his return. When have i said that Tsonga is as good as them normally? I said, on Peak form he's as good as them, which obviously he doesn't show every match.
No. He is not as good as them in his peak form. If the top players play well against him, they will beat him even when Tsonga plays well because their peak level is much higher than Tsonga's. If the top players have a bad day or are playing average then Tsonga(on form) would probably beat them.

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Your saying that i over-rate him just because i say that when he plays at his peak form, he can beat almost anybody, which is true. Juts ask Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray etc... He's beaten all 4 of them.
And when was the last time he has beaten one of them? Quite a while ago.

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The draw could open up for Tsonga though to make it to the semis, like it did at Wimbledon. Therefore he wouldn't have to sustain a great level for 2 weeks or 1 week as he's still capable of seeing off the players he should beat, when he isn't playing all that well or playing average. The stars will have to align for him, sure. But there is always a chance he could pull an amazing performance in the semi finals or final.
Tbf, in Wimbledon, he was lucky that he didn't face one of the top players in the quarters though(Rosol eliminated Nadal) and those kind of upsets happens once in a blue moon. And him putting 2 great performances in a row is still unlikely.
Btw, it is not only about putting amazing performances, it is also about dealing with the pressure, like when playing in the final, there is a lot of pressure on you and it is really hard to cope with that, etc, if you get what I mean.

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Berdych is in the same boat as Tsonga really.
I disagree with that, Berdych is a better player than Tsonga(he is in much better form too atm), he is much more consistent and I would say poses a bigger threat to the top 4( for example, he eliminated Federer in the quarters last year and didn't play badly against Murray in the semis)

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I enjoyed Federer vs Tsonga at Wimbledon 2011 for example.
You only enjoyed that match because Tsonga won.

Seriously though, that match was really entertaining to watch.
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