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post #2531 of 6756 (permalink) Old 11-07-2012, 09:18 PM
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Didn't watch the match(Murray/Djokovic) but I heard it was a good match.

I find it silly that someone said that these two players will play in the final, that's ridiculous. There is no guarantee that Murray and Djokovic will play in the final. Ruling out the defending champion and probably the best indoor player of all time is just ridiculous. Plus there are guys like Ferrer, Del Potro who are very capable of beating the Top guys.

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Wow, that was a great match. Shocked to see Nole being so motivated, tbh.
If he wins it, it can give him a lot of points. Plus it is a very important tournament so I am not really surprised that he is motivated. He only won this tournament once so he would try to win this tournament more times.

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Never said their entirely defensive. I said their PRIMARILY DEFENSIVE, which Djokovic, Murray, Nadal are. Of course they are capable of playing aggressive tennis and sometimes do in matches, but most times they are defensive. They are at the top because they are the most coonsistent players, and also the courts today are really slow which benefits defensive players. Murray,Nadal and Djokovic wouldn't have done so well if the courts were at the same speed as they were in the 90's for example. And it works the other way of course. And plsu you forgot to mention Nadal at the top . He's still a top player.

You prefer a different style of tennis than i do, which is fine. Everyone has different tastes. I like attacking tennis, which is the main reason why Tsonga is my favourite player. He's very aggressive, and when it works, it's a treat to watch. Shvedova likewise (although not as much as Jo), and so is Del Po in a way (He's not ass aggresive as Tsonga, but he's primarily offensive)
If I am not wrong, in 2008 Murray was more of an aggresive player.
There is no doubt that Djokovic and Murray are primarily defensive players but they are capable of playing aggresive tennis.
I don't really enjoy their matches but that is mainly because I don't like defensive tennis, it is a matter of opinion tbh.

Also I want to say that Federer's defensive skills are underrated imo.

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I can't class him as a top player at the moment because...he isn't playing

Besides, the guys been away for six months or so now. How he plays when he returns is another story, he'll take a bit of time to get back to match fitness and play as well as he did (if he can play as well as he did) it took Del Potro over a year and he's still not quite there, but we'll see how he plays when he's back.

I was rooting for Tsonga in that match but he completely fell appart in that final set. I thought he would build on his momentum for the second set but he didn't. Berdych played well. I think he'll test Djokovic but he wont win (unless Djokovic isn't trying 100% as he's pretty much through) and Murray will beat Tsonga based on both of their form right now.
It will definitely take time for Nadal to recover but I expect him to still stay in the top 4.

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If Berdych and Murray both win...who goes through?
That's quite complicated. If Berdych and Murray both win. Djokovic, Murray and Berdych would have won 2 matches and lost 1. So I am not sure who will go through.
I doubt that will happen though, Djokovic should be able to beat Berych.

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Lol who said it was 100% going to be Murray/Djokovic?

Tsonga is out pretty much.
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Lol who said it was 100% going to be Murray/Djokovic?

Tsonga is out pretty much.
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Deserved win for Djokovic. Better player in the last 2 sets. They'll have a much better match in the Final.
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Lol someone forgetting about the G.O.A.T in indoors and this tournament.
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I can't class him as a top player at the moment because...he isn't playing

Besides, the guys been away for six months or so now. How he plays when he returns is another story, he'll take a bit of time to get back to match fitness and play as well as he did (if he can play as well as he did) it took Del Potro over a year and he's still not quite there, but we'll see how he plays when he's back.

I was rooting for Tsonga in that match but he completely fell appart in that final set. I thought he would build on his momentum for the second set but he didn't. Berdych played well. I think he'll test Djokovic but he wont win (unless Djokovic isn't trying 100% as he's pretty much through) and Murray will beat Tsonga based on both of their form right now.

If Berdych and Murray both win...who goes through?
True. But i still expect Nadal to win Roland Garros next year, and remain in the top 4 despite injury.

And as for your final question, it will firstly go down to sets won/lost.

They are both at 1-1, with sets being 3-3. If Murray wins in 3 sets and Berdych in 2, then Berdych goes through. If it's the other way aroun, Murray goes through. If they both win in straights or they both win in 3, then it goes down to games won/lossed.

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Didn't watch the match(Murray/Djokovic) but I heard it was a good match.


Tommorow, Federer to win in 2, Del Potro to win in 2.
It was an average match. Their match at the Australian open was much better than yesterday's match imo. I guess it depends on your tennis tastes. I think your a bit like me, and prefer attacking tennis to defensive tennis.

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Well their Australian match this year was one of the best matches they played between them so it is a bit harsh to compare it to that.

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They are both at 1-1, with sets being 3-3. If Murray wins in 3 sets and Berdych in 2, then Berdych goes through. If it's the other way aroun, Murray goes through. If they both win in straights or they both win in 3, then it goes down to games won/lossed.
If they both won/loss the same amount of games, then what?

Anyway, I am going to make a few predictions

Group A- Djokovic and Murray through
Group B- Federer and Ferrer through

Semifinals 1- Federer VS Murray
Semifinal 2- Djokovic vs Ferrer

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I've never said Murray/Djokovic is a guarantee to be the final fyi. Just my opinion. Both should beat Federer if they play as well as they have been playing recently though.

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Happy this is at least a close first set. Federer isnt playing well at all, his serve is awful right now. On current form, murray and djokovic would beat him in the semi finals. Federer will still win this match but it hasnt been at all impressive.

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Federer wins the first set.

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Happy this is at least a close first set. Federer isnt playing well at all, his serve is awful right now. On current form, murray and djokovic would beat him in the semi finals. Federer will still win this match but it hasnt been at all impressive.

Oh come on, give him a break. There is still time for the semis.
He isn't playing that well but it still enough to beat Ferrer.





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Federer wins the first set.




Oh come on, give him a break. There is still time for the semis.
He isn't playing that well but it still enough to beat Ferrer.
There is still time before the semi finals, I was saying though that Federer playing like this will get beaten by Murray or Djokovic. Of course he can (and likely will) up his game for the semi finals vs one of those two guys making it a very interesting semi final. He's playing well enough to beat Ferrer but honestly this match has a huge mental factor for Ferrer. He's like 13-0, and he's only won three sets off Federer...ever. That's a huge mis-match.

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