[nazzac]

Originally Posted by Samoon

And also Djokovic has 6 consecutive wins against Tsonga.

Actually before 2011 Tsonga had a better H2H against Djokovic, 5-2 I think.

Yeah, if Djokovic doesn't win it will be a major shock. Tsonga is probs going to be the whipping boy in that group.

The RG loss to Nole has destroyed him mentally i think. Ever since then he hasn't been too good. I know he reached the Wimbledon semis, but thats mainly down to Rosol beating Nadal.

The battle btween the other 3 in the group should be interesting though

[Seabs]

Murray in 3 and Djokovic in 2. Probably have to try and catch highlights for them but at least none of the major matches are on my days in Uni. Bummed the evening sessions are on CL week though.

[nazzac]

Murray defeats Berdych 6-3,3-6,6-4. Murray should go through now, as that match seems to be the decider (based on form)

Berdych was shocking. So many UE's. Routine for Murray after the 1st.

Murrays on court attitude stinks. He's a break-up yet he's still maoning and swearing when hs opponent wins a point. YOUR A BREAK UP AND WINNING!!! WHATS THERE TO MOAN ABOUT!!!

I wonder what he'd be like if he was doing a Shvedova (I.E choking and tightening up on big points)

[Seabs]

Originally Posted by nazzac

Murray defeats Berdych 6-3,3-6,6-4. Murray should go through now, as that match seems to be the decider (based on form)

Berdych was shocking. So many UE's. Routine for Murray after the 1st.

Murrays on court attitude stinks. He's a break-up yet he's still maoning and swearing when hs opponent wins a point. YOUR A BREAK UP AND WINNING!!! WHATS THERE TO MOAN ABOUT!!!

I wonder what he'd be like if he was doing a Shvedova (I.E choking and tightening up on big points)

How does being self critical of yourself mean your attitude stinks? He expects to win every point and he's annoyed when he doesn't. That's a large part of the reason as to why he's broke into the top 3 and won the US Open. Surely if anything it's just a human reaction to moan and be disappointed with yourself when you've just lost a point that you felt you should have won. You guys on here are way too critical of Murray for the sake of being critical because you don't like him personally. It's better to let the anger out. When you let it build up inside that's when stupid errors creep into your game. Not like he's yelling at his opponent that he's shit and shouldn't be winning points against him. Ease up on him.

[nazzac]

Whats there to moan about though when you are winning? I would understand if he was behind, or if he was on his serve. But it was on the Berdych serve, he was winning and in control of the match. He shouldn't be shouting and swearing at the top of his voice because of one error. You didn't see Berdych doing that when he made an error.

He's a perfectionist, i get it. But thats no reason to go off on one because he made 1 little error.

I'm not saying he should be super cool on court. Letting anger out is fine, when he has a good reason to get angry. But he's constantly moaning, and gets angry with himself over the smallest things. Thats bad, because he begins to doubt himself, and also the opponent across court loves to see him react like that.

And you also got to consider what he's saying at the top of his voice. Swearing at the top of his voice when camera's are around and children are in the audience isn't really good isn't it. Thats not being a good role model for those children isn't it?

[Seabs]

You act like Murray is the first player to swear on court. There's nothing immoral about swearing when you make a mistake to lose a point at this level with so much at stake. I'd rather him get angry and show he cares then shrug it off like he doesn't care.

How many sets did cool calm Berdych win?

Feels like you're trying to hard to nitpick. He isn't breaking any rules or acting immorally and if it makes him play better then fine. Like I said I'd rather see him get fired up about losing a point and show some passion. It does annoy me how often he grabs a body part like he's injured when loses points though when it's obvious there's no serious injury there to clutch at.

[Zankman Jack]

Anything interesting happening in Tennis lately?

[Joel]

Seabs is right. The reason Murray gets pissed off when he loses a point is because he has a winner's mentality. It doesn't matter if you're winning or losing, when you make a silly error, a true born winner will be angry, because he is striving for perfection. That is the difference between the great players and the good players. Murray is a great player. Berdych is a good player.

Djokovic has a moan too. Look where he is. At the top.

[nazzac]

Originally Posted by Seabs

You act like Murray is the first player to swear on court. There's nothing immoral about swearing when you make a mistake to lose a point at this level with so much at stake. I'd rather him get angry and show he cares then shrug it off like he doesn't care.

How many sets did cool calm Berdych win?

Feels like you're trying to hard to nitpick. He isn't breaking any rules or acting immorally and if it makes him play better then fine. Like I said I'd rather see him get fired up about losing a point and show some passion. It does annoy me how often he grabs a body part like he's injured when loses points though when it's obvious there's no serious injury there to clutch at.

Originally Posted by Joel

Seabs is right. The reason Murray gets pissed off when he loses a point is because he has a winner's mentality. It doesn't matter if you're winning or losing, when you make a silly error, a true born winner will be angry, because he is striving for perfection. That is the difference between the great players and the good players. Murray is a great player. Berdych is a good player.

Djokovic has a moan too. Look where he is. At the top.

Pete Sampras was a great player. Much, Much more succesfull than Murray will ever be. He rarely went off on one after losing a point. He had a winenrs mentality, but he never swore at the top of his voice after making 1 error.

Bjorn Borg, the same. Many great players didn't shout out at the top of their voice after making an error.

So you don't have to shout and get all emotional to be a great player. You can have a winning mentality without moaning when 1 little thing doesn't go your way. So that theory is wrong. And Djokovic does moan. But not at the smallest things (1 error) like Murray does.

Like i said. I'm fine with him letting anger out at the appropriate times. But when he's winning, and in control, there is no need to swear at the top of his voice. I don't like his attitude, and so don't many others. You may like it, fair enough. Doesn't concern me one bit. We'll have to agree to disagree here. You lot support Murray. I don't, so therefore we'll see things differently.

Back to tennis though. What did you think of the actual match of tennis?

Oh, and ALLEZ JO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tsonga winning this group would just be awesome. Especially if he beats all 3 opponents along the way. (Probs not going to happen. But i sure hope so)

I'm pulling for a Del Po vs Tsonga final. That would be awesome!!!

[nazzac]

Djokovic def. Tsonga 7-6,6-3.

Djokovic was bad, Tsonga was worse. Overall a poor match with some good moments at times.

Tsonga had a big chance to win this game. Djokovic didn't play well at all, but Tsonga didn't play the big points well in the 1st set. Although, Djokovic was lucky with a net cord on Jo's 1st BP. Tsong should have taken the first set, which was fairly even. After that Tsonga imploded and Djokovic went on to win the 2nd set.

Jo's confidence is completely shot atm. Some work with Roger Rasheed during off season needs to be done, so he can come back as a threat next year.