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Old 06-14-2012, 12:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I hope Federer and Murray reach the finals but the chances of that happening are pretty slim. Nadal and Djoko will dominate this tournament and Djoko will probably win.

The Dark Horse in this tournament imo is Tsonga, he will do well and I would not be surprised if he reaches the semis. He defeated Federer last year in wimbledon and nearly won against Djoko in the French open so he should not be understimated. I dont think Del potro would have a good tournament because he is not good in grass. I could be wrong though. Wawrinka could do well too. I don´t know how well will Ferrer do. I don´t think there would be any upsets for the men in this tournament, the top 4 will probably make it into the semis.

I hope Federer is in the side of Djokovic because they never faced in grass before and I would love to see them face there. It would be epic. If he is in the Nadal side Federer would probably lose to him if they meet in the semis so I hope Federer in the Djokovic side. To be honest, I don´t think anyone cant beat Djokovic in the wimbledon, he is just too good in all the surfaces apart from clay. Nadal nor Federer cant beat him here. Murray has a bigger chance in beating Djoko than Federer or Nadal has. Nadal can only beat Djoko on clay now.

For the women Sharapova or Serena will probably win. Sharapova is in brilliant form atm and Serena is very good in grass. Kvitova could also win, she is the defending champion so she should not be ruled out. Azarenka and Stosur also has a chance. Women tennis is unpredictable so we could see an underdog reach the finals or maybe even win it. I hope that happens. It would make the tournament more exciting. I hope we see great tennis and i hope it is a great tournament.

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Can only see Murray winning a hardcourt slam tbh. And Federer too at this stage in his career.

I expect Djokovic to walk Wimbledon this year. Would be great to see Nadal take an extra step towards GOATdom but he was completely outclassed in last year's final.
I think people are understimating Federer in the wimbledon just because of those losses against Tsonga and Berdych. It just happens sometimes. Remember when Nadal loss to Soderling in 2009? It was just an upset. The next year he was dominant. Federer biggest chance to win a slam is still in wimbledon imo.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The difference there though is that Nadal was injured against Soderling and confirmed this by pulling out of Wimbledon a month later. Federer was simply outplayed or bottled it against Tsonga and Berdych. Probably a mix of both.

Fed's best chance for another slam is US Open easily imo. He completely threw away the game against Djokovic last year and is still the first or second best player on that surface depending on how fit Del Potro is.
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I'd rather see Fed win another US Open than Wimbledon
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To be honest, I don´t think anyone cant beat Djokovic in the wimbledon, he is just too good in all the surfaces apart from clay. Nadal nor Federer cant beat him here. Murray has a bigger chance in beating Djoko than Federer or Nadal has. Nadal can only beat Djoko on clay now.
How do you figure that out? Nadal's won Wimbledon twice and battered Murray three years on the trot, losing just one set against him. He's got way more of a chance than Murray has of beating Novak. Murray's only win against Novak was on a hard court last year in a best of three.

Rafa came close to winning in Australia and has won his last three against Novak (albeit on clay). Mentally he's getting there when it comes to facing Djokovic.
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How do you figure that out? Nadal's won Wimbledon twice and battered Murray three years on the trot, losing just one set against him. He's got way more of a chance than Murray has of beating Novak. Murray's only win against Novak was on a hard court last year in a best of three.

Rafa came close to winning in Australia and has won his last three against Novak (albeit on clay). Mentally he's getting there when it comes to facing Djokovic.
No, Nadal is getting close mentally. You cant say that just because of a match. Federer played a 5 set match vs Nadal in the australian 2009 and lost, then the next meetings between them in slams Fed lost. It was just a match. Yes i know that Nadal has won the last three meeting but that was on clay, where he is a beast.
Murray head to head with Nadal does not matter in this case.
Djoko has the mental edge over Nadal which is the reason why I think Murray has a bigger chances in beating Djoko than Nadal has on the other surfaces apart from clay. Last year Nadal was completely outclassed by Djoko in the wimbledon.
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No, Nadal is getting close mentally. You cant say that just because of a match. Federer played a 5 set match vs Nadal in the australian 2009 and lost, then the next meetings between them in slams Fed lost. It was just a match. Yes i know that Nadal has won the last three meeting but that was on clay, where he is a beast.
Murray head to head with Nadal does not matter in this case.
Djoko has the mental edge over Nadal which is the reason why I think Murray has a bigger chances in beating Djoko than Nadal has on the other surfaces apart from clay. Last year Nadal was completely outclassed by Djoko in the wimbledon.
Not as much anymore.

Yeah Nadal was outclassed last year and at the US Open by Novak, but at the Australian he came so close to toppling him. Last year Novak beat him on clay twice and I think it was seven in a row he had over Rafa with wins in Miami & Indian Wells too included. Rafa couldn't even beat him on clay, mentally he was killed before playing Djokovic. That's changed since Melbourne. He's gradually clawed back the difference and has been able to get three on the spin, and all fairly comfortable too despite being on clay. The difference between the US Open and the Australian Open final told the story on how much Rafa's closed the gap, and unlike last year and even though they were on clay, he beat Novak. Djokovic beat him on clay twice last year but couldn't this year.

Rafa on grass is a superior player to Murray as he's shown in the last three years and mentally is stronger than everyone other than Novak. To say Murray has a better chance against Novak who he's never beaten in a slam rather than Rafa who's won it twice and has 11 grand slams under his belt and is in good form is just ridiculous. Everytime Murray's got in a big match situation at a Slam he's crumbled other than when he beat Rafa at the US Open in 2008 when Rafa had done nothing special on a hard court. Djokovic would tear him apart on grass more than he would Rafa, no doubt. Rafa would stand a far better chance of beating Novak than Murray. How anyone can believe otherwise astounds me.
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Not as much anymore.

Yeah Nadal was outclassed last year and at the US Open by Novak, but at the Australian he came so close to toppling him. Last year Novak beat him on clay twice and I think it was seven in a row he had over Rafa with wins in Miami & Indian Wells too included. Rafa couldn't even beat him on clay, mentally he was killed before playing Djokovic. That's changed since Melbourne. He's gradually clawed back the difference and has been able to get three on the spin, and all fairly comfortable too despite being on clay. The difference between the US Open and the Australian Open final told the story on how much Rafa's closed the gap, and unlike last year and even though they were on clay, he beat Novak. Djokovic beat him on clay twice last year but couldn't this year.

Rafa on grass is a superior player to Murray as he's shown in the last three years and mentally is stronger than everyone other than Novak. To say Murray has a better chance against Novak who he's never beaten in a slam rather than Rafa who's won it twice and has 11 grand slams under his belt and is in good form is just ridiculous. Everytime Murray's got in a big match situation at a Slam he's crumbled other than when he beat Rafa at the US Open in 2008 when Rafa had done nothing special on a hard court. Djokovic would tear him apart on grass more than he would Rafa, no doubt. Rafa would stand a far better chance of beating Novak than Murray. How anyone can believe otherwise astounds me.
Fine, fair enough. Lets see how Rafa does against Djoko if they face each other.
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Fine, fair enough. Lets see how Rafa does against Djoko if they face each other.
That's not the point how Rafa does. I'd favour Novak over Rafa but only just. I wouldn't give Murray a shot against either of them. Nadal stands a chance against Novak but Murray doesn't.
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Can't wait for Wimbledon this year! Moving down to Surrey in the few days too so might be able to go down and get myself a day pass one day which would be awesome!

In the mens draw, you can't count out any of the top three now.

Djokovic: while he didnt win the French, he was very very close and the grass is a better surface for him, if it comes down to another Djokovic/Nadal final, I think Djokovic wins. I think his game matches up with grass really really well and he's my pick to win at the moment. I think he'll want to get the momentum back from Nadal and will be really, really eager to retain his title this year.

Nadal: He's going to be coming off a really good tournament at Rolant Garros, he'll be feeling good after seemingly overcoming the stigma of losing to Novak in finals during this claycourt season. I think he's got some of his confidence back from last year so he'll be more dangerous this year at Wimbledon. He's got a massive chance of winning still.

Federer: This year I feel like Federer is really really dangerous to the top two. He's had a pretty great season this year so far, won a couple of tournaments, found some really good form. He played well on the clay, and his best surface is grass so he should be feeling confident coming into Wimbledon. I think he could upset one of the top two, I assume Djokovic is in his half and if he plays really well he could reach the final.

So I think one of the top two should win. However there's always the chance someone could sneak in and surprise everyone by taking out one of the top three and doing really well.

Murray: Even if he doesnt play well you can't ignore him due to the hype which will undoubtedly be around him come Wimbledon. Murray has the ability, he wants to break through and has the skill to do so. If he can put all the pieces together for the tournament then he could be a big surprise finalist or even winner. He's played Nadal three or four times now at Wimbledon and has gotten closer to beating him. This year could be the year for him'

Tsonga: I feel like he's finally starting to get his game together, it's all a little late for Tsonga but I feel like he's got the ability to create a big surprise like he did when he came back from two sets down to beat Federer. I can imagine him doing something similar to Berdych in 2011 when he was a surprise finalist.

On the womens side I think obviously Sharapova is a big favourite to take the title. She's just completed her career grand slam, and is the new world number one, momentum is on her side too so she's probably favorite. If Azarenka gets her game togehter she could be a contender to the title and you can nver count out Serena. She may have had a pretty terrible French Open but she can bounce back quickly, we've seen it before. Grass is good for her and Wimbledon is a special tournament for her so I wouldnt be surprised to see her win.

If it comes down to a Sharapova/Williams final though...Williams will win, whenever she plays her it's absolute destruction, I still don't understand how...

PREDICTION FOR MENS WINNER: Novak Djokovic
PREDICTION FOR WOMENS WINNER: Maria Sharapova.

PREFERRED MENS WINNER: Andy Murray
PREFERRED WOMENS WINNER: Serena Williams
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