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Old 09-08-2012, 06:10 AM   #1631 (permalink)
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Serena deserves the #1 ranking and it's asinine that she isn't already, making a mockery of the women's game really. 2013 she could very well complete a calendar year grand slam.


Why is it? Azarenka's won as many slams as her this year and had an incredible winning run at the start of the year. She went further in the French & Australian Open, got to the semi final at Wimbledon & Wimbledon II and she's in the final here. Azarenka is the deserved number one based on the year so far, and she had a strong 2011 too. There's no doubt when she's on it Serena is the best player but it's not a mockery at all. Azarenka's well earned her number one spot up until now. Wozniacki & Safina were a joke at number one but look at what Azarenka's done before you come out with utter shit like that.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:01 AM   #1632 (permalink)
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Very, very true.

Which is why I'm glad Sharapova didn't win. In almost every final they have Serena completely destroys her. Azarenka and Serena had a pretty competetive Wimbledon match did they not? So hopefully this will be something like that.
Yeah but in the Olympics it wasn't competetive at all. Serena destroyed Azarenka. I don't think she will today but I think she will win in straight sets.

Maria has beaten Serena only twice, both in 2004. When Maria won the Wimbledon in 2004, she defeated Serena in the final.

I don't think I will be bothered to watch any matches in US Open now, if Murray reaches the final then maybe I would watch that.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:09 AM   #1633 (permalink)
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Why is it? Azarenka's won as many slams as her this year and had an incredible winning run at the start of the year. She went further in the French & Australian Open, got to the semi final at Wimbledon & Wimbledon II and she's in the final here. Azarenka is the deserved number one based on the year so far, and she had a strong 2011 too. There's no doubt when she's on it Serena is the best player but it's not a mockery at all. Azarenka's well earned her number one spot up until now. Wozniacki & Safina were a joke at number one but look at what Azarenka's done before you come out with utter shit like that.
typical Nige overreaction. Get you a little offside, did I?

Whilst Azarenka has had a stellar season, she hasn't even been remotely close to as dominant and devastating as Serena has been in absolutely beasting aside her 'opposition.' Azarenka is taken to 3 sets quite often, Serena has just smashed them off the court and her quality shines through. She dominated both Wimbledons (even though the Olympics doesn't count for ranking points) but when she is making an absolute mockery of the #1 player in the world (Sharapova at the time at Wimbledon) and will more than likely do the same to Azarenka, then she should be the #1 player in the world, because the one who dominates all around them should be the #1, and the asinine structure of the WTA points system makes the women's game and #1 ranking look like a huge mockery year in, year out. For example, as you pointed out, the likes of Wozniacki and Safina being #1 without winning a major or even looking close to winning a major. It's laughable and a blight on the game.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:19 AM   #1634 (permalink)
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Azarenka isn't a phony #1. She's nowhere near as good as Serena right now obviously but the rankings aren't based on who's playing best right now. Serena would be #1 if she played more events but she's in the position where she only needs to play the events she wants to play unlike the others. Azarenka's had a good year, you can't deny that. Serena fucked up at Aus and French Opens. Since then though she's been unstoppable. Sharapova is actually #1 in the race this year so she's technically had a better year than Azarenka. The rankings are as fair as they can be without being unfair to players who play and win a lot of events but they clearly don't tell the full story by having Radwanska #2 and Serena only #4. There's a reason for it though and not just poorly constructed rankings. Not like Azarenka is some Wozniacki who isn't really very good and has only got their on winning minor events. She's done well in the majors this year and won her first 26 matches this season I think.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:38 AM   #1635 (permalink)
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Azarenka is a deserving no.1. She has won the most points, and has a great year. She may not be the best player in the world, but she's consistent. There are plenty of players who are better than their ranking suggests imo, but if they can't find the consistency and win tournaments then thats their problem. E.G It was clear yesterday that Sharapova at her best is better than Azarenka at her best, but Azarenka was more consistent.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:48 AM   #1636 (permalink)
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She's deserving by being consistent, but the world #1 should dominate, like Federer, Nadal, Djokovic etc, and Azarenka/Sharapova haven't been remotely close to dominating as Serena this season. Sure, Serena should play more events to get her ranking up, but the majors should be scaled as such so someone can win a major and be assured of a top 5 rank that season.

Speaking of rankings, if Novak wins the US Open, does he become #1 again?
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:54 AM   #1637 (permalink)
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She's deserving by being consistent, but the world #1 should dominate, like Federer, Nadal, Djokovic etc, and Azarenka/Sharapova haven't been remotely close to dominating as Serena this season. Sure, Serena should play more events to get her ranking up, but the majors should be scaled as such so someone can win a major and be assured of a top 5 rank that season.

Speaking of rankings, if Novak wins the US Open, does he become #1 again?
Fortunately no. Djokovic is the defending champion so he doesn't win any points if he win the US Open.

Btw Azarenka deserves to be No.1. As many have stated she has been the most consistent this year. Serena has only been good since Wimbledon. Victoria has done very well in the majors too.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:53 AM   #1638 (permalink)
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Rain has delayed the start of play it looks like. Damn, the final may have to be played on Monday again.
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Very windy out there, which favours Murray more i think
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Little moment of controversy, Murray plays a drop shot on break point but his cap comes off and Berdych cites it as distracting him and they agree to replay the point, with Murray asking Berdych if he's 100% sure. Berdych then wins the following point to break back and make it 2-2 and Murray angrily ditches his cap.

Just hope he doesn't let it affect him in the next few games, hopefully his more mature and calm mental approach will help him here.
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