[DocBlue]

Originally Posted by Rush

Heard rumours that we we in for Gaston Ramirez which would be a good buy, as far as wingers go i see us going for Hoilett which i'm not hugely keen on, i wouldn't mind getting Adam Johnson provided it wasn't an expensive transfer. as far as others go i really don't watch enough spanish, italian, french, german etc football so i can really give a good opinion of a lot of players.

Have to say I rate him highly. Surprised to see so many Liverpool fans wanting AVB. I guess he can build a team but tactically he's pretty damn shocking.
Kind of don't care who we sign, just glad we can attract some of these players after the CL win.

[The Monster]

Originally Posted by united_07

seems to be just rehashing the story which was in BILD today. I would be extremely surprised if Hazard comes now after the bid for kagawa, dont think both players are needed, both play in the same position

Hazard plays on the LW but likes to drift inside & Kagawa a no.10 who likes finding gaps & threading killer passes through in the final 3rd.

A LW & a No.10/CAM is much needed in our side, we need to replace Giggs long term on LW as only player we have who wants to play LW is Young & in Europe Young is sadly to predictable & we need a creative player who plays through middle off a CF while replacing Park (who I think will leave this summer) in the squad.

If the agent of Hazard right then we have bid for Hazard & offered him wages so that’s done it’s just a matter of him choosing us (If wants to) that’s left & we've all heard stories regarding Kagawa over last few weeks. Fact is this Man Utd side lacks creativity something BOTH players offer.

Im really surprised more then a few people believe that were only after just the 1 of them & both are a back up option if we don’t land the other? I cant see SAF going to Kagawa or Hazard & saying "look your our back up option if a deal for Hazard/Kagawa falls through, so do you mind hanging on in there for a bit & see what unfolds with Kagawa/Hazard first then if doesn’t work out we come around to you & offer you deal, that ok?"

Take out Park in our team & his spot in our team needs filling & Kagawa versatile & very creative so lose 1 then make up for with new addition. Then on other side of things Giggs may be in last upcoming season & isn’t & shouldn’t be a starter anymore nor does he play on LW anymore, so leaves Nani & Young & Nani wants play on RW which means Young only player on LW but as ive said in Europe this season Young found hard to get past his RB cos way European team play is play deep back 4 & narrow & double up, Young cut back to right foot then try to whip in a cross doesn’t work against teams so need player on LW who can do a bit of everything & be unpredictable & That’s something we have lacked all season & have done really since Ronaldo left us in 2009 was that unpredictable factor now team moves ball slower & more rigid in there shape that’s not what MUFC about nor are Kagawa & Hazard if either joined us we need start playing faster tempo cos both of them are fast thinkers with & without ball (In Kagawa case).

[united_07]

Originally Posted by The Monster

Hazard plays on the LW but likes to drift inside & Kagawa a no.10 who likes finding gaps & threading killer passes through in the final 3rd.
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Hazard has been playing in the no 10 role recently, and has said thats where he would prefer to play though

[JOAL.com]

what is up with everyone taking the no 10 role nowadays

whats wrong with being a winger?

anyways, Kagawa has more in common with mata if anything

[BANKSY]

Why not just go back to Owen and Heskey ?

On a serious note, Dempsey would be a good buy for Liverpool.Could also see them getting Victor Moses from Wigan if Martinez is manager, could get him for cheap since his contract is out next season.

[united_07]

Rumours are that Fabio has turned down going on loan to Benfica, and will now go to QPR, would have preferred someone like wigan, after how Macheda fared at QPR, but at least he will be getting premier league experience.

[JOAL.com]

More clubs should try and get owen on their squad

no matter what, he can always score

[The Monster]

Originally Posted by united_07

Hazard has been playing in the no 10 role recently, and has said thats where he would prefer to play though

I believe he said it was honor to be given no.10 number for Belgium & that playing time & playing in right position is important to him regarding next move? I Could be wrong though. And Yes Hazard has played more through center this season at Lille but as I said few pages back in this thread I imagine SAF wants Hazard (IF he came to us) to play a free roaming role like Ronaldo use to do for us. He would be asked start on LW like does at Lille then just go all across final 3rd doing whatever he wants to do. I think it would be silly to just play him on LW anyway & tell him to stay there as no one will ever get the best out of him doing that he needs to able roam to be able to produce at best imo. Which is shown in the stats for this season gone by, where he made 16 assists & scored 22 goals which is his personal best record to date.

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Originally Posted by redeadening

what is up with everyone taking the no 10 role nowadays

whats wrong with being a winger?

anyways, Kagawa has more in common with mata if anything

Nothing wrong with being a winger, but my point is football grows, continues & evolves. In the past 4-4-2 was way to go then 4-3-3 came into effect now seeing a 4-2-3-1 shape take effect.

The idea is the player who plays in front of 2 CM's & behind the lone CF acts as creative link man through CM to CF finding space & passes to open up teams defenses, he also has a reasonability to make a 3 man Midfielder when needed & have legs & pace to join in attacks & chip in with goals/assists as well. Role of no.10/CAM therefore has come important over last few years as seen with Mata in Chelsea team over season played on wing & as no.10 Think most will agree his better off CF where link up play in attack, find space & when needs to he drops deeper to help his 2 CM's.

Chelsea should see benefits of what switch in shape has done for them when AvB left, RdM made Chelsea go to 4-2-3-1 & moved away from there 4-3-3 which used for years. Chelsea since Feb have played 2 deep CMs & Mata as said played as creative advanced midfielder where able to effect games more then he did when out wide drifting in.

Prob already know all this mate but No.10/CAM role becoming important part of teams success in modern day football, if you want to look at what happens when don’t play 4-2-3-1 & have no natural creative no.10/CAM in mould of Mata or Silva in your side then look at our European displays this season. SAF went with a open 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 shape which didn’t go to well & played Rooney off CF as No.10 but apart from his goals I don’t think had a good season & think that role doesn’t suit his style for all Rooney qualities I find him better as a no.9 then no.10 so goes show how much depends on playing as no.10/CAM.

And I agree Mata & Kagawa a like in a lot ways in terms of how they play & what effect they have on there respected teams.

Double Edit: Freaking hell stupid PC & internet, sorry for the double post.

[Seabs]

Originally Posted by Lil'Jimmy

Why not just go back to Owen and Heskey ?

On a serious note, Dempsey would be a good buy for Liverpool.Could also see them getting Victor Moses from Wigan if Martinez is manager, could get him for cheap since his contract is out next season.

He'd probably bring Franco with him too

Dempsey would be a good buy for any english team bar maybe City and United. Moses could do very well at Liverpool if he has the right attitude.

[FrayedEndsOfSanity]

Originally Posted by BOSS

So, we're not getting M'Vila?

Oh joy.

Makes it even worse considering the Vertonghten to Spurs deal is imminent apparently.