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post #281 of 6223 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 02:29 PM
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Currently they're a way better side. No way they're a bigger club, no way.
what constitutes a bigger club then?

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Currently they're a way better side. No way they're a bigger club, no way.
Barca are definitely a bigger club than Milan. They attract better players, have a better weekly attendance, more fans globally, their games probably attract more viewers, and are also by far a better side.

Real Madrid are clearly the biggest club in the world, after that it's Barca and Man Utd. Then Bayern.

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Club spokesman often bullshit, and as you say unless you can sell a bit, 50m isn't a lot int today's market, particularly competing with Madrid's ever growing squad. + I think Jordi Alba will set you back like 15m euros? That's a very good player, but doesn't leave you with much scope to bring in quality at the back and up top. I imagine even if he is telling the truth, a chunk of wages will be included which is often more a stumbling block than the fees themselves are. I think Thiago Silva is on a hell of a lot already and will want a rise when he goes to an even bigger club. I'm not sure how many top quality CBs are available. Hummels isn't unless something truly ridiculous is offered.

On Thiago, in 10/11, by ESPN's stats, he only made 6 starts in La Liga. Don't think that constitues him as being a top midfielder for a couple of years. Wilshere has had one full season, and was one of the best during that season, but I'd like to think he requires another such season to be classed as one of the best. I rate Thiago higher than Wilshere too btw.
I don't know exactly how much money is available, probably not enough to get Thiago Silva anyway. Javi Martinez is definitely more get-able, and Athletic and Barcelona are on good terms.

Thiago is class, I don't need to see a required amount of starts in La Liga before I decide to call him one of the best, he already is.

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exactly, he has only played 41 league games, which im guessing a lot of those are sub appearances there is no way he is one of the best central midfielders around,
He is definitely one of the best around. He's better than anyone in the PL apart from Yaya and Modric.


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I'd take the Thiago Silva deal, but I notice that some people here highly rate Thiago so I might be off here. He's good but Barca will continue to use Iniesta and Fabregas for another few years, and they also have Sergi Roberto who I think is a great talent, and Affelay can play there if needed.

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^Did you just say Barca is a bigger club than Milan ?
Yes, they are. Attendance, ticket sales, merchandise, global brand value, performances in Europe, market value of players, and just general reputation amongst players. I don't remember the last time a player said it's their dream to play for AC Milan, it's always Barcelona, Real or an English team, unless ofcourse it's an Italian player.

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Barca aren't bigger than united. Madrid ?, i guess so.

The united global brand is monstrous.

United are the most well supported sports team on the planet and the most valuable according to forbes.


Edit: when the fuck did bayern become so highly rated ?, lot of italians around the world that support juve and milan.



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Man Utd can't even attract the best players anymore. People are already talking Hazard leaving them for Madrid in a few years and he hasn't even joined yet

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Barca aren't bigger than united. Madrid ?, i guess so.

The united global brand is monstrous.

United are the most well supported sports team on the planet and the most valuable according to forbes.


Edit: when the fuck did bayern become so highly rated ?, lot of italians around the world that support juve and milan.
Bayern have been in the CL final twice in three years. Besides, they are very financially stable, as in real rich, not Barca/Utd/Real unfair rich despite having loads of debt. And they have been one of the biggest clubs in the world for decades, won the Champions League four times, like Barca and Ajax.

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Unlucky for you history didn't start writing itself 4 years ago. Milan have always been a bigger club than Barcelona, throughout history, based on success, name value etc. They are in a decline for the past few years but that doesn't make Barca a bigger club, not by any means. Currently they are a way better side and more marketable but if you compare their success historically it's like comparing Brazil and Holland's success at World Cups.
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LOL Barca bigger than United.

If United were based in Spain we'd literally have taken over the world by now.
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If you were based in Spain, you wouldn't be as big as you are now. England has the bigger footballing culture and the PL the more global appeal, allowing Man Utd to be as big as they are.

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Yes, they are. Attendance, ticket sales, merchandise, global brand value, performances in Europe, market value of players, and just general reputation amongst players. I don't remember the last time a player said it's their dream to play for AC Milan, it's always Barcelona, Real or an English team, unless ofcourse it's an Italian player.
^ So lets ignore all of that because Milan won a couple of extra Champions league's in the 60's, at a time when the Barcelona side were repressed by Franco and even forced to throw cup finals. You don't have to go back 4 years ago, Barcelona have won 4 CL's in the last 18 season's.

That's like saying Ajax are a bigger club than Chelsea. Times change.


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If you were based in Spain, you wouldn't be as big as you are now. England has the bigger footballing culture and the PL the more global appeal, allowing Man Utd to be as big as they are.



^ So lets ignore all of that because Milan won a couple of extra Champions league's in the 60's. You don't have to go back 4 years ago, Barcelona have won 4 CL's in the last 18 season's.

That's like saying Ajax are a bigger club than Chelsea. Times change.
Times do change but you can't discredit the legacy a team carries for so many years. Milan is the team with the most international titles on the planet. 7 CL's, countless championships, cups, finals and now because it's in a decline compared to their usual success they aren't as big as a team with less than half their success ?
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