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Old 06-12-2012, 07:50 AM   #1581 (permalink)
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fuuck didnt realise japan vs australia was on tv, so decided to go the gym, did anyone watch it? how did kagawa do?
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:03 AM   #1582 (permalink)
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i just got home, it was 1-1, kagawa was subbed near the end. havent seen any of the match tho, i'll read about it. it was actually a pretty strong japan team, nagatomo, endo, honda and kagawa all started, our team was pretty ordinary even by australian standards.

and it sounds like kagawa was pretty quiet, some nice passing but little influence. i didnt watch it though.
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fuuck didnt realise japan vs australia was on tv, so decided to go the gym, did anyone watch it? how did kagawa do?
watched 5 mins, saw australia bomb an easy chance by hitting the bar and switched it back off. i know we had a bloke carded after 55 mins or so and it ended 1-1.

Kagawa and Honda i heard were pretty decent for Japan.
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i just got home, it was 1-1, kagawa was subbed near the end. havent seen any of the match tho, i'll read about it. it was actually a pretty strong japan team, nagatomo, endo, honda and kagawa all started, our team was pretty ordinary even by australian standards.

and it sounds like kagawa was pretty quiet, some nice passing but little influence. i didnt watch it though.
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watched 5 mins, saw australia bomb an easy chance by hitting the bar and switched it back off. i know we had a bloke carded after 55 mins or so and it ended 1-1.

Kagawa and Honda i heard were pretty decent for Japan.
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just saw this on the official united site, a good interview with Raphael Honigstein on Kagawa

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As United supporters around the world await the completion of Shinji Kagawaís transfer to Old Trafford, we catch up with Bundesliga expert Raphael Honigstein to shed light on the player set to become the Redsí first Japanese signingÖ

How good a signing have United made?
Itís a brilliant signing. A lot of clubs would have liked to make the move, but United benefited from one of the rare instances where a player had really made up his mind that he wanted to play for a specific club. Of course money is important, but for him it was almost more of a romantic notion of joining United, and the others had no chance. They tried to get very near Unitedís offer, but Kagawa had made up his mind that this was his dream and he wasnít going to pass up the opportunity. All sorts of clubs were trying to sign him and I think itís a real coup for United to get him.

Which other clubs were interested in him?
Well, you never quite know just how far they got because the indications from the player and his agent were always very clear - that he was only going to move to United - so they didnít get very far. I think Arsenal and Chelsea certainly looked at him, Real Madrid very late on in the game became aware of his potential, but United stole a march on everyone because the player wanted to go there. Itís easy to be cynical and sometimes players just sign for whoever offers the most money, but itís fair to say this instance was different. He really wanted to go to United and wouldnít listen to any other offers, as far as Iím aware.

What are his key attributes?
Kagawa isn't an Arjen Robben or a Franck Ribery type who picks up the ball and everyone starts shaking with fear; the guy almost works in a stealthier way. He finds space and he touches it when itís already too late.Heíll find space behind a full-back or heíll play someone in with a first touch pass and you maybe donít have time to worry about him because heís already outsmarted you. Thatís the kind of stuff he does. He doesnít run at people. Heís not a real winger. For Japan he plays out wide, but always with a constant view to cut in, and for Dortmund his best role was as a fairly free second striker in a more forward attacking role. He found space a lot of times on the left, would pop up on the right and heís really good at what he does.

Are there any areas of his game he particularly needs to work on?
Not really. I donít think the Premier League is necessarily more physical than the Bundesliga. There might be more running, but itís hard to top what Dortmund have done in terms of sheer ground they cover. If thereís any player who will find the tempo easy to adapt to, itís him. Heís never going to be a big threat in terms of heading ability, but thatís not going to change and you donít need him to. Thatís really it. He just needs to keep growing as a player and become even more consistent. The team heís played in was near-perfect and he really found the perfect position for himself so itís hard, on the back of that, to think of too many faults. You could say maybe he needs to bulk up ever so slightly if heís going to be played consistently out wide, where heís going to have to hold off full-backs.

How important was he in Dortmundís recent successes?
He was certainly very good in the first season, but then he got injured in January 2011 and he missed the great run they had towards the end of 2010/11 when they really pulled away. The real strong stuff came when he was injured, but he was still an integral part of winning the Bundesliga title. In 2011/12 though, he really was arguably their most influential performer after Robert Lewandowski.Mario GŲtze missed four months of the season and people hardly noticed because Kagawa was so good. He also made Lewandowski look really good because the understanding between the two is just phenomenal. Everybody should watch the second goal that they scored against Bayern in the cup final last month. Itís all one-touch and you could see they instinctively knew where each other was.

How impressive was his adaptation to life in Germany, on and off the field?
Dortmund isnít one of the more multicultural cities in Germany - I think there was one sushi restaurant which he went to - but that just shows how adaptable he is because it was still easy it was for him to settle on and off the pitch. I think itíll be much easier for him in Manchester after two years in Dortmund, and thatís another reason why United were keen on him; thereís no question mark over him which you might get when buying a player straight from Asia. It was the same with Ji-sung Park; after playing in Holland he found it easy to make the move to England.

Which parts of his game suggest he can adapt to the Premier League?
All parts. His attitude is just phenomenal on and off the pitch. Heís a guy everyone loves; nobody has a bad thing to say about him. Heís a little bit shy but a tremendous professional and a great team-mate. His attitude is top class. That, on top of his unique skills set, is tailor-made for the Premier League. His attributes are pace, directness, one-touch play, and it all lends itself to playing at the highest level. Plus he can only improve because heís still very young and if you think where heís come from in a very short space of time Ė the Japanese second division, to winning the Bundesliga back-to-back and now going to United - I think weíve only seen a glimpse of what he can do. If he can continue on that career path then the guy will be one of the greats.

Where do you see him fitting in at United?
He definitely gives you an option to play 4-2-3-1, the way that United played in 2007/08, which is arguably the best football theyíve played in recent years. He gives you that ability not just from his intelligence, but from his workrate because you know you can play him out wide and if need be, he can go 4-5-1 with the wide players coming back and he will do that no problem because heís got such an amazing work ethic and his legs are brilliant. He gives you so many options and Iím sure heís also a good impact player if you wanted to start him on the bench. Heíll definitely improve the team and the squad straight away. I think heíll force his way in and Ferguson will find a way to accommodate him because heís too good to be left out.
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apparently the australian sending off was akin to the greece/poland game, two yellows for fouls that werent there, we got a soft penalty, japan had someone sent off and then the game ended with us having set up for a free kick then the ref blew time before we took it
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I watched the full 90.

Kagawa and Honda were the best for Japan in my opinion.

The ref was pathetic though.
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apparently russian media are reporting Nani has agreed personal terms with Anzhi, would be surprised if this was true, and the rumoured fee was €50m, around £40m, but tbh at that price i would say sell, if it meant bringing in a couple of players
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apparently russian media are reporting Nani has agreed personal terms with Nani, would be surprised if this was true, and the rumoured fee was Ä50m, around £40m, but tbh at that price i would say sell, if it meant bringing in a couple of players
Nani is buying himself for 40m? Waste of money imo
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That'd be great for United if true. Would be surprised that Nani would want to go to Russia, but Anzhi do have some good players I suppose.
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