So Roger Clemens signed with a minor league team named the Sugar Land Skeeters...I live like 15-20 minutes away from the stadium they play at, might actually go to a game to out of curiosity.
He's pitching his first game Saturday, will try to go if nothing comes up. As far as a comeback goes, he said "He's not thinking that far ahead right now."
I'm of the opinion that nobody has separated themselves from the rest of the pack yet. Then again, I only have a general idea of what each's statistics are.
Never recognized that, to be honest. In years past, I always considered him a #2 starter on a pitching staff with the potential to be dominant. I had no idea the disparity between his stats and the rest is that great.
Price is the AL Cy Young pitcher as of today. I'm a huge fan of Sale, and he'll probably win one at some point starting next year, but he's pitching longer than he ever has I'm pretty sure. Not sure how much longer he can keep it up.
Price leading in wins is impressive since the Rays hitting wasn't the greatest while Longoria was out. It's no shock that his ERA and K rate go along with the Ws.
And you do realize that the league-leader in wins has only won the Cy Young Award 10 times (that's combining NL and AL) since 2002 right? So, half of the winners haven't led the league in wins. Obviously that means half of them have won, but anyways, it's "important," but it's not the end all be all factor in determining the Cy Young Award winner. (Although I'm not sure if you think that way anyways). A lot of other factors are involved since the BBWAA has finally gotten their heads out of their asses and gotten with the metrics bandwagon.
Again though I can see the argument for Price, and I wouldn't have a problem with it, but, personally I think Verlander is better.
Price is definitely the ace of the staff. Shields is good, but I don't know what it is, he just can't be great. In a couple years, I fully expect the duo of Price and Moore to be hovering atop the AL Cy Young standings. Hell, could be next year, if Price keeps this up and Moore's stellar 2nd half can carry over.
I'm just saying how it is. Wins are a large factor in the Cy Young voting. I think wins are bullshit too for the most part, but with Price, they aren't.
I'm just saying how it is. Wins are a large factor in the Cy Young voting. I think wins are bullshit too for the most part, but with Price, they aren't.
So the Rays having the second best bullpen ERA in MLB (best in the AL) this season, at 2.85, totally exonerates Price from having BS wins?
Bullpens mean a lot more these days and like I said, Price has only had one complete game this year. So 15 of his 'wins' can be credited to the amazing bullpen that the Rays have. (FWIW, Verlander has a league-leading six and the Tigers bullpen is 18th in ERA at 3.78 and 10th (of 14) in the AL))
As for Felix in 2010:
13-12, 2.27 ERA (best in baseball), 34 starts (most in baseball), six complete games, 249.2 IP (most in baseball), 232 K, 70 BB, 174 ERA+, 1.057 WHIP, 7 H/9 (best in baseball), 8.4 K/9, 0.6 HR/9, 2.5 BB/9, 3.31 K/BB. He was pretty damn good and considering that the Seattle pen that year had a 4.23 ERA (which was 11th in the AL) it was awfully impressive.
Greinke won it the year before with 16. Lincecum also won it that year with 15 (when the MLB leader was at 19 each). Voters have gotten smarter recently. That's one of the last things considered now.
Bullpens have been critical for more than just these days.
What about the bats though? Give me the Tigers over the Rays any day, especially if the Rays don't have Longoria, which they didn't for most of the season.
There are other pitchers that aren't even close to Price that have a good number of wins due to superior run production. That was the unwritten point.
Bullpens have been critical for more than just these days.
What about the bats though? Give me the Tigers over the Rays any day, especially if the Rays don't have Longoria, which they didn't for most of the season.
There are other pitchers that aren't even close to Price that have a good number of wins due to superior run production. That was the unwritten point.
Price's Run Support in Wins: 6.025
Verlander's Run Support in Wins: 4.5833 (repeating)
Price's Total Run Support on the Mound (Encompassing W's, L's, and ND's): 4.44
Verlander's Total Run Support on the Mound (Encompassing W's, L's and ND's): 3.52
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