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Old 06-24-2012, 11:54 AM   #881 (permalink)
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The Sox giving Ortiz the day off, Youk gonna start at the 3rd and Middlebrooks to be DH.

I'd say Middlebrooks is 3th in my ranking for AL Rookie of the Year.

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I think the race depends on how both the LAA and BoSox finish. That should really distinguish between the two. Both Trout and Middlebrooks are on torrid paces.

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It's a shame Darvish is eligible, imo, cause he was already a star in Japan. It's not like he's really a 'rookie', only by rule.

Yu's great though, but still.
I disagree entirely. YU should be considered a rookie. The level of competition in Japan is nothing like it is here in America. Not to mention a couple of other factors - Yu was used to pitching with an extra day or two rest than he gets over here in America, and he has to immerse himself in a whole new culture. Not accustomed to the schedule of 162 games, the demand on the body of pitching every 5th day, nor the truly Westernized environment puts him in a worse predicament than the American born prospects.

Considering all that, I'd say Yu is more of a rookie than anyone else and is far beyond the curve than say a Mike Trout, who was called up last year, failed miserably, but learned how to approach major league hitters.

EDIT: lawls, meant major league pitchers, not hitters in the Trout context. Excuse me.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:05 PM   #882 (permalink)
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Saw this on ESPN, Middlebrook's last 5 games he's batting .714 with 5 HR's and 9 RBI's. Fucking awesome.

And when you look at Trout & Middlebrook's numbers for the year, their numbers are really similar.
Middlebrooks is batting .331 with 9 HR's and 33 RBI's, OPS of .960.
Trout is batting .337 with 7 HR's and 29 RBI's, OPS of .934.
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Darvish is still pretty young, only 25, not like a 30 year old Ichiro winning ROY.
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Middlebrooks has been epic though. Become one of my favorite Sox already and not just because I'm not a huge fan of the team this year.

Buchholz on the DL.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:15 PM   #885 (permalink)
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William Middlebrooks is the sole reason why that team is in contention in the AL East still. Only 5 games back, I believe. He's already Boston's best player. I'm waiting for Theo to shop Dempster to Boston when he gets off the DL.
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William Middlebrooks is the sole reason why that team is in contention in the AL East still. Only 5 games back, I believe. He's already Boston's best player. I'm waiting for Theo to shop Dempster to Boston when he gets off the DL.
I think the bullpen is a reason too, at the moment at least. Offensively he's the one doing most of the work right now though.
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Notorious, marked for HERNANDEZ in your sig.

Middlebrooks has been epic though. Become one of my favorite Sox already and not just because I'm not a huge fan of the team this year.

Buchholz on the DL.
He had some type of infection, was in the hospital don't know if he's still in there.
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Yeah, they did turn it around. Aceves was horrible to start the year but he's been a reclamation project and is throwing some great ball. There's other contributors like Big Papi' that have been consistent, but when Middlebrooks started seeing regular at bats when Youk went down, that's when Boston seemed to take off. Much like Trout being called up to the Angels. It infused some sort of intangible energy throughout the ball club or something.
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He had some type of infection, was in the hospital don't know if he's still in there.
Yeah, I guess it's intestinal bleeding.

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Yeah, they did turn it around. Aceves was horrible to start the year but he's been a reclamation project and is throwing some great ball. There's other contributors like Big Papi' that have been consistent, but when Middlebrooks started seeing regular at bats when Youk went down, that's when Boston seemed to take off. Much like Trout being called up to the Angels. It infused some sort of intangible energy throughout the ball club or something.
Agreed with you there. Been a really fun year for rookies so far.

I'm gonna give Salty some credit too. Almost every Sox fan I know gave up on that guy far too soon and he's actually producing quite well at the moment. I love Lavarnway and I can't wait to see him get called up but I'm really enjoying Salty's play recently.
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Middlebrooks just recently got hot again. He hasn't been close to Trout's level of consistency. Middlebrooks will cool off again, while Trout will probably still be Trout.

Trout is far and away the rookie of the year. Can he even count as a rookie since he's played in the majors before this year?

As for Yu Darvish, just look at it as him pitching in the minors the past few years. He's a rookie, not used to MLB hitters. He has some control issues at times, but when he's on, yeah, he's pretty damn good. He needs to trust his stuff more I think. He might be wary of how good MLB hitters are so he dances around the zone seeing what he can and can't get away with. Or he's just off at times. It happens to the best of pitchers.
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