Snoth

But you can for defense!!!!

Turns out BP is about as good as they come. Ranks up there with Pedroia, Utley, Kinsler and Ellis. So, actually, the numbers agree with the eye test!!! yay!!!

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JM

He was talking about not being able to use metrics for Beckham.

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El Conquistador

All I'm saying is last year, Beckham had the best defensive fielding percentage among qualifying second basemen in the AL. This year, things aren't going his way (tough hops, some bloopers) but that doesn't erase how strong of an arm he has nor the range he covers. Gordon is damn good. He could very capably play SS and is every bit as flashy as any other 2B with the exception of BP.

It's a homer pick but you guys need to watch some of the work he does before responding ignorantly with "lolno" or "METRICS > all". Beckham had the metrics on his side last year and hasn't regressed at all this year physically. Numbers may not support that but who cares?

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Fielding percentage is a terrible stat to use to judge defensive ability. Guys with more range get penalized because they sometimes can't complete the difficult plays they attempt.

His UZR/150 the last two years was middle of the pack. He improved a bit defensively last year but has regressed back so far. UZR/150 usually needs a few years before becoming somewhat concrete, but from all defensive metrics, he ranges from below average-average. Certainly not up there with Phillips, Pedroia, Kinsler, etc.

And numbers are important because they're objective. You're a sox fan so obviously you're gonna be biased towards him. Numbers aren't.

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El Conquistador

WTF? Never even heard of UZR. PLS GO. Making me feel inferior by producing an argument I've never even heard of and shiiiit....

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Ultimate zone rating bro montana.

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Haystacks Calhoun

Rangers broadcaster having an evaluation after saying someone was on 5th base last night.

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TomahawkJock

According to Baseball-Reference Brett Lawrie has the best WAR in baseball. I know he is great defensiviely but to say he has the best War..eh.

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El Conquistador

That's why all these statistics are skewed and should be taken with a grain of salt.

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JM

WAR is not just a defensive stat...

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