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The Cubs are so awful.

Discuss.
 
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Say what you want about Buerhle, but he's an inning eater that'll get you a low 4 ERA, he has the 4th longest consecutive 200 IP seasons streak of all time, tied with maddux, no one else has done that in the last 30 years. With Buerhle, you're looking for a day to rest the middle relievers.
 
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@PP: They still made the post season though yeah? Ok.

Average pitching with great hitting will get you there, especially with two wild cards now. Not not even sure why you're arguing this. You can have around 4.00 ERA give or take a bit and make it to the post season.

So yeah if Toronto has around a 4 team ERA and leads the AL in runs like that lineup has the potential to do, they make the post season and perhaps win the East. That was the original context of my statement btw.



Zobrist was playing SS at the end of the year. That dude can play anywhere apparently.
 
#2,417 ·
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Today is MVPosey's big day. :mark:

In what is quite evidently becoming the undisputedly most extreme pitchers park since the expansion era, AT&T Park, and particularly in the last couple of years more than any other year before, Posey, who plays half his games there, had a considerably higher OPS+ than Ryan Braun (172, which is 1st in all of baseball, vs. Braun at 159 which is fifth) had the exact same wRC+; obviously Braun’s a significantly better baserunner, but Buster played a much, much more valuable position and did it exceptionally well. Fangraphs gives MVPosey the WAR edge (admittedly, by 0.1) in 67 less PAs, and he leads the NL in WAR. I don't like doing interleague "what ifs?" since there are almost literally millions of variables to consider due to ballparks, opposing pitching strength, etceteras, etceteras, but in celebebrating it's kind of funny to think that if Posey were in the American League, his batting average of .336 would have knocked Miguel Cabrera right off the Triple Crown cloud.

Think of the numbers MVPosey could put up at extremely hitter-friendly Miller Park, where he becomes a beast in an admittedly Small Sample Size: http://www.nbcbayarea.com/blogs/the-cove/Posey-Responds-Well-Gets-Robbed-on-Distance-153072335.html

I'm also inclined to give a large point to the individual whose team actually made the postseason versus the guy whose team didn't. It's why I was inclined to be fine with Braun winning NL MVP last year over Matt Kemp (besides, Kemp's a Dodger, heh). Giants fans saw what it was like to live without Posey for the better part of an entire season in 2011. Everything about him from his position(s) (he does play 1B on a regular basis, too), offensive production and performance and leadership for the team and various intangibles are of a raw necessity for this team to succeed.

Assuming Posey wins the MVP today
Through the AT&T Park Era, from 2000 and on the Giants have now had:
6 MVPs: Kent 00, Bonds 01-04, Posey 12
4 Division Titles: 00, 03, 10, 12
1 Executive of the Year: Sabean 03
2 Cy Youngs: Lincecum 08, 09
3 National League Pennants: 02, 10, 12
3 World Series Championships: 10, 12
1 Rookie of the Year: Posey 10
1 Comeback Player of the Year: Posey 12
1 Manager of the Year: Baker 00
1 No-Hitter
1 Perfect Game

10 million crying Dodgers fans after just the first World Series, priceless

TORTURE
 
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I'm never sure if it's the parks or the pitchers, or some of both. AT&T is clearly not Coors or Arlington, but I'm not sure it's Petco either. Petco seems like the best pitcher's park since SD doesn't have very good pitchers and that stadium yields nothing year after year. As close as 2009, AT&T was in the same place as The Cell and Camden Yards on the Park Factor list.
 
#2,420 ·
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I'm never sure if it's the parks or the pitchers, or some of both. AT&T is clearly not Coors or Arlington, but I'm not sure it's Petco either. Petco seems like the best pitcher's park since SD doesn't have very good pitchers and that stadium yields nothing year after year. As close as 2009, AT&T was in the same place as The Cell and Camden Yards on the Park Factor list.
Good points, definitely. I do think PETCO used to be more decisively pitcher-friendly than it was even this year, and it's still very pitcher-friendly, of course, but I noticed in several Giants games down there during day games and even some night games, the ball flew out more than anyone had ever seen it before this year. The Giants commentators talked about it during a few different games this year. But, no doubt, it's still a very pitcher-friendly environ. But when it heats up down there, it does lend itself to some big fly balls, or at it least that was a running narrative this season.

It's funny, thinking about Posey's season for a moment, I remember a monster shot he hit over the Right Field wall, and no RHBs do that. In all the years of AT&T, I think it's literally like 12-15 RHBs who have hit opposite field homers there. Just something I was thinking in relation to both Posey and the ballpark a minute ago...

Oh, and as for a guy whose team made the postseason being just a touch more rewarded than a guy whose team didn't quite make it, I should say that without Mike Trout, the Angels don't even get remotely close to reaching postseason baseball this year. It's ridiculous the impact that guy made for that team. And even there, the Angels had a better record than the Tigers, too. So, some different ways to slice this pie up, I guess.
 
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Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale

Buster Posey, who will win the NL MVP in a landslide, was so preoccupied by a charity event, he forgot about the award announcement. #SFGiants

***

The "C" next to his name in the lineup stands for Christ.
 
#2,426 ·
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:mark: :mark: :mark: :mark: :mark:

It's coming, it's coming, it's coming... Just a few minutes away...
 
#2,427 ·
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:yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes :yes
 
#2,431 ·
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What a remarkable landslide victory it was, too.

Bless you, Buster! Saw him with the wife, kids and a bunch of friends and whoever else on MLB Network a few moments ago. So great.
 
#2,430 ·
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Molina's from the planet Squatury, though, like all of the Molinas. ;)
 
#2,437 ·
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:lmao

Just got this email from a friend:

"It was only a matter of time. Buster Posey should be first active player to get his own statue - except for the Cabrera one that the Tigers actually play at 3rd base."

No offense, Cabrera fans. :)
 
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