Originally Posted by Maestro
He's not really struggling persay. .290, 6 HRs, and 18 of his 40 hits have been extra base hits in 36 games played as a 19 year old is spectacular. What sucks for Bryce is that the Nationals offense is anemic.
Both are legit studs. I just see NL MVP in Harper. Don't know if I see Trout ever reaching that peak.
You don't see Trout as an AL MVP? I gotta say you are insane. Trout has been compared to Mantle. Now I am not big into those kind of comparisons but Trout's (and Harper's for that matter) peak is not just MVP caliber, its Hall of Fame caliber. inner circle
HOF potentially IMHO. I also think people are underestimating Trout's power. He has 25-30 HR potential.
Furthermore, Trout has better make-up than Harper does. I can see Harper having issues with teammates because of the way he carries himself. Nothing wrong with having swag and knowing your great, but he carries himself like a tool shed.
I also am going back into stathead nerd mode, and note that Trout has already been worth about 3 WAR. THAT. IS. INSANE. Harper bout 1.5. Harper appears to be a below average defender at this stage but easily see him progressing to a solid above average defender in the future.
Harper's power potential is unreal though. On the scout scale of 20-80 for power, he is consensus rated an 80. Nobody is rated as an 80, ever. Mike Stanton wasn't even rated as an 80. It can't be overstated how insane it is to be rated an 80 in power. Trout, though, is rated an 80 in speed, but give me that power anyday, speed can go away much faster and isn't as game breaking.
In the end it comes down to preference. Do you prefer the all-around game that Trout has, or the game changing power that Harper possesses. Right now, I'd take Trout but I would say Harper has the higher ceiling, Trout the higher floor.
Also, MrMister, there are more players who have hit a home-run at Fenway as a teenager like Harper. I think the list you quoted are the youngest visiting players.
With a two run homer in the fourth inning last night, Bryce Harper (19 years, 236 days) became just the 11th teenager ever to homer at Fenway Park and the second-youngest visiting player to homer at Fenway. Only Robin Yount (19 years, 204 days) did it at a younger age.
As if Harper isn't good at the #3 spot, JM...
Dude's clutch with 2 walk off hits already. Agreed with PP. the Nats might have the future prototype that every team will desire. And let's not act like Harper doesn't have speed or can't play the outfield.
Quoting number of walk-off hits as a comparison between two players in their first season is just silly. Hell, comparing any two players by walk-offs is silly. I would love to make an argument that there is really no such thing as "clutch" as there have been numerous studies to pretty much disprove the idea of "clutchness", but I feel like I'll get flamed so I won't. And besides, while Trout hasn't had any walk-offs he has come up with quite a few "clutch" hits.
As for his defense, Harper, at this point, can't
really play the outfield. Consensus numbers say he has been below average. One day he will be good out there but not now.
Final note, you guys are assuming Trout will bat lead-off his whole career. I don't see this as definite like ya'll are assuming. Trout can bat 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. Don't assume he will stay as a lead-off hitter. Just because you are fast does not mean you have to bat lead-off. Come on people, new era of baseball, new way of thinking. Would you bat juan pierre lead-off? Dee Gordon batting lead-off, for the record, is dumb too. What is the point of having a fast lead-off guy if he is never on base?