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Old 03-08-2013, 06:01 PM   #3451 (permalink)
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2 of Dickey's best starters last year were against the AL East. Dickey against TB last year, CG 1 hitter, against Baltamore, CG SO.

2011 didn't lose any of his 4 starts against the AL (2 against Yankees, 1 against Detroit, 1 against Oakland).
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:12 PM   #3452 (permalink)
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There's nothing condescending about it. If you truly are brainwashed enough to think that your bullpen runs four-seven deep, then we just don't agree and I'd rather not touch on that. It is almost irreconcilable views. You keep saying "LOL FLEX" or my favorite, "flexypoo give it up". Are we trying to have a discussion here or are you going to continue being an abrasive prick? If you want to discuss things, we can. Otherwise, I don't particularly appreciate your arrogant tone, sarcastic responses, and belittling comments. I would rather disengage from discussion with you then.
Our bullpen is average, mid teens probably. Oliver is reliable, Janssen was was lights out most of the year. Whip under 1. Great K rate. How often do you watch him? He was fantastic. Santos and Delibar will play the set up rolls. They have a few guys that can eat innings.

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You can't assume a guy will be better because he reached an all-time low. That is illogical. I don't care what your excuse is to cover up for Romero, but Romero does not look good. It was bone spurs last year, now it is he's working on a sinker. What will it be in May? When can we accept that Romero isn't the ace that the organization thought he would be? All in all, the pitching is average, unless Morrow and Johnson go Cy Young on us all.
Everyone knows pitchers do this in Spring Training. It's not an excuse it's simple reason why spring should not be considered. They already accepted that he's not an ace. He's a number 5 starter. He should stop being discussed as otherwise.

And Flex you are probably the most belittling poster here. "nosurifsrs blah blah blah". Typical Flex intro. I thought this was your thing? I don't really dislike it. Everyone brings something to the table...

Telling your fellow fans you wish they weren't a fan of the same team. More Flex.

I more or less find it amusing but ya, you're pretty belittling a lot of the time and more or less assumed you were trying to be.

We don't really need to discuss the Jays further. We shouldn't even be exclusively be chewing on the Jays, there's 6 teams that need to be better than them for them not to make it and I'd welcome you to find 6 that have less problems.
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:29 PM   #3453 (permalink)
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Morrow is never gonna go Cy Young, he's a high K, moderate ERA kind of guy
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:11 PM   #3454 (permalink)
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6 teams? What kind of math are you doing, JM?

Only five teams make the playoffs. 5 teams. And in actuality, not even 5 teams. 3 teams. 1 from the AL East; 2 Wild Cards. I think it is distinctly possible for 3 teams from the AL to be better than Toronto.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:22 PM   #3455 (permalink)
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I meant 5 but ya they got 3 spots. Even if I concede the division to Tampa they are probably in the hunt against Oakland/LA, Chisox and Texas for 2 spots and they should have a very good shot there.

To get in Toronto will need to be in 1st or second in the division. Which is extremely possible. You picked two teams in complete disarray to finish ahead of them in their own division. I just don't see that as likely. You're kinda the only one that does too.

And Flex if you want to put so much emphasis on spring training then lets consider Josh Johnson retiring all 11 batters he faced today.

And if you want to consider Dickey moving to the AL consider that he hasn't lost a start against an AL opponent in 12 or 13 starts, dating back to 2008.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:46 PM   #3456 (permalink)
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I'm not putting an emphasis on spring training, I'm accentuating the year and three to six months track record that Ricky Romero has, up to and including this spring. Not necessarily an emphasis, per say.

Boston was in disarray last year and only someone who was blind would say they weren't. I'm not about to do that. I will say that I think there has been an infusion of new talent and a possible culture change that can turn their fortunes around. Farrell, Gomes and Dempster are all good clubhouse guys. Bobby V wont be criticizing Pedroia's teammates, there wont be a rift between players and coaches, etc,. I have reasons to be optimistic. They were in disarray last year. I'll admit that. The Yankees aren't in disarray. The great equalizer is a great pitching staff, which they have (including the pen).

We will see how it plays out. I respect your opinion and you have every right to think that. My expectations are a little tempered for the Jays.
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Yankees are sweating nothing but bad vibe right now. Compounding injuries, looming suspensions, the A-Rod saga. There's really nothing good going on there right now.
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Dickey kinda got roughed up by the Mexicans.

I just tuned in here in the 4th and Gallardo is gone after 50 pitches with two men on. I assume Gallardo brought the good stuff tonight. He's supposed to suck this time of year.
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Masahiro Tanaka is probably on track to a huge payday in MLB very, very soon. See you in a Dodgers or Angels uniform before too long, Masahiro.
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