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Old 02-27-2013, 06:28 PM   #3311 (permalink)
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Darren Oliver ya.

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Old 02-27-2013, 06:34 PM   #3312 (permalink)
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And ya I'm not about to discount good teams because some good teams have fallen short recently. That really doesn't provide any basis at all for substantial grounds.

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It's just an example of how things can go to shit. Just because a team is overwhelmingly a favorite of analysts doesn't mean they'll be successful. Of course each team is different and has different circumstances, talent, morale, leadership, luck, and all the stuff it takes to be successful.
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How good is the Yankee's rotation outside of CC? I would take the Blue Jays over the yankees anyway.
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Yeah the Angels are probably a better example from last season. I'd think that bandwagon is even bigger this season and rightfully so.

JM, is that Oliver, Darren Oliver? Only other guy I know is Janssen, so that didn't really answer my question.
Angels would have been fine if it wasnt for the God awful bullpen.
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Kuroda was surprisingly very effective in his move from the NL West to AL East. Pettitte was good when he was healthy, although he came late and suffered an injury during the year. Nova was effected with gopherballitis more than anything, which I think will regress to his first two year totals of under 9% HR rate. Hughes I'm not a big fan of, but as a #5, he's > Romero, should his injury issues not be too serious. The Jays may have bigger names, but Buehrle is pitching a spot too high (more of a 4 than 3), Johnson and Dickey are moving into much tougher hitting divisions, Romero was a mess last year and Morrow was hurt.

If Dickey keeps up his massive K rate that will be a good sign for them, Johnson should be a good number 2, but I'll take the Yankees back end over the Jays, especially when the Yankees have Pineda, Baunellos, and Campos sitting in rehab/minors.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:32 PM   #3317 (permalink)
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I don't really understand why Hughes is better than Romero. Romero has 2 years as a starter better than any year Hughes has as a starter and has only had 1 bad year period. A year in which he finished it off with off-season surgery on his throwing elbow plus has had work on his knees. The guy has banged up most of the second half of the season. He's the 5th starter with something to prove. He should be fine.

What really do the Yankees have to be excited about this year beyond Cano being in a contract year. Everyone is old/injured or both.
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You're a homer, JM. I'm not discussing this any further. I don't despise the Blue Jays. If you're going to resort to name calling, then argue with someone else. Though, I must say, you'll have a hard time finding somebody who will have the gall to speak up and point out the flaws in the Blue Jays. Whenever there is a sexy team, we all become captivated to pick them to make a deep run. I wont make that mistake again.
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The only team I'm convinced is in the post season is the Washington Nationals. Pitching is just insanely good.
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I don't really understand what I've said to make me a homer or where I've done any name calling. If defending what pretty much everyone else is saying makes me a homer then so be it. It's not like I'm saying the TWINS ARE GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE WORLD SERIES WOOO YA BABY BAM.
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