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Old 02-27-2013, 01:29 PM   #3291 (permalink)
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It should be noted that Phil Hughes has a bulging disc in his back. I think it's upper back so maybe that's not as bad as lower back, but back problems are problems you never want.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:31 PM   #3292 (permalink)
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Okay, homer. You heard it here first when it does happen. I don't expect you to have a clear, objective mind.

I'd rather have Sabathia/Kuroda/Pettitte than Dickey/Morrow/Buehrle. JJ & Romero are up in the air. Nobody knows what to expect from those two. Dickey's production will decline moving from the NL to AL East. JJ/Romero and Hughes/Nova/Phelps/Pineda both are equally unreliable back-ends of rotations. Nova/Hughes have been all-star level pitchers; same goes for JJ/Romero.

Boston's lineup is still a top 3-5 lineup in the MLB. Not good? WHAAAAT?

Reyes had no choice to take that pitcher to give off an aura of optimism, when in reality, he's been chirping with the media, saying he's upset that Loria told him to buy a home in Miami and then traded him two days after. As far as Lawrie, let's see him play a full season first. I reserve the right to hold judgement on him.


Do you even know what your talking about? Firstly, sabathia is on the downside of his career, karoda and pettite are nothing special anymore.

You didn't even name josh Johnson who is miles better than sabathia when healthy.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:32 PM   #3293 (permalink)
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Johnson miles better than Sabathia? Can't even come close to agreeing with that.

JJ = Josh Johnson btw
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Do you even know what your talking about? Firstly, sabathia is on the downside of his career, karoda and pettite are nothing special anymore.

You didn't even name josh Johnson who is miles better than sabathia when healthy.
I'm not sure if I even want to keep debating with you. You're delusional if you think Sabathia isn't the best pitcher in either rotation. Not only does he have the pedigree, but the procedure Sabathia had this offseason was minor. He's only 31. What have you seen that makes you say he's on the "downside" of his career? His first DL stint was related to a strained groin - absolutely not related to a shoulder, elbow or lat injury. In the playoffs, CC pitched with inflammation and bone spurs in his elbow. Do you want to know his stats in the 2012 postseason? - 3 Games Started, 1 CG, 21 & 1/3 IP, 3.38 ERA... WITH PAIN.

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I'm not sure if I even want to keep debating with you. You're delusional if you think Sabathia isn't the best pitcher in either rotation. Not only does he have the pedigree, but the procedure Sabathia had this offseason was minor. He's only 31. What have you seen that makes you say he's on the "downside" of his career? His first DL stint was related to a strained groin - absolutely not related to a shoulder, elbow or lat injury. In the playoffs, CC pitched with inflammation and bone spurs in his elbow. Do you want to know his stats in the 2012 postseason? - 3 Games Started, 1 CG, 21 & 1/3 IP, 3.38 ERA... WITH PAIN.

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Like I said when JJ is healthy id take him any day over sabathia. Ccs innings have gone down over the past 3 seasons, his heath isn't good, his weight will eventually play a role as he's getting older. I just don't see a big deal in him anymore. I'm not saying he's bad, but I don't want him as my ace anymore.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:53 PM   #3296 (permalink)
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That's completely inaccurate. CC threw 237 innings each year in 2010 and 2011. In a year when he landed on the DL once for a groin and was held back from two starts at the end of the year because of inflammation in his elbow (last year, 2012), CC still threw 200 innings.

Do you want to present a counterargument, or do you want to keep presenting fallacies? His innings pitched have not really shown any trend of decline.

2008 (Cleveland & Milwaukee) - 253 IP
2009 - 230 IP
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So he's mad at Loria for misleading him. What exactly does that have to do with Toronto? He's been nothing but upbeat, optimistic and happy about the Jays since arriving. Dickey said he's the best teammate he's ever had and expects that to continue.

How many rotations have question marks at 4 and 5? A LOT. How many have had seasons in the past at the level that JJ and Romero have? Not many. They don't need to be much better than average anyway. Certainly don't need to be elite.

You can speculate that half the Jays team will end up injured. That can happen to any team really so why you'd say that will happen to the Jays and not the Red Sox or Yankees or Rays etc is beyond me.

Not sure what homer has to do with anything. They're the projected division winner on every network, every website, every analyst. When you drastically improve your baseball club and the rest of the division makes lateral moves (at best) you expect to not finish in the same place as the year before.
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The Giants wont repeat that magical season.
It's always the smart money to bet against a team repeating a World Series Championship. And while "magical" is an appropriate term to use for a team that does go all the way (and I will freely use the term because of the twisting road the season was for the team, marked by a Perfect Game I was fortunate enough to attend all the way through an All-Star Game that foreshadowed the first game of the World Series to an under-the-radar trade for an infielder, and a host of records and historic games the team was in, six elimination games survived in the postseason, etceteras) it's not like the Giants didn't face their fair share of adversity in 2012. Our closer pitched all of one inning last April before leaving the team to have his second Tommy John surgery performed. Which resulted in a "closer-by-committee" management of the bullpen. Casilla worked out for a while, then after sustaining a bad blister problem on his hand, began to become a liability in that role by late June/early July. That stretch alone probably cost the Giants at least three wins with six blown saves.

The trade for Hunter Pence didn't work out the way Sabean had hoped; Pence was horrible as a Giant with a .219/.287/.384 line, all way below his career norm. Sandoval suffered his second (and thankfully last) hamate bone injury, sending him to the DL for six weeks. And perhaps most critically our much-celebrated two-time Cy Young Award-winning ace pitcher became a shell of himself, posting an ERA that was by far the worst among all qualified starters in the game. Bumgarner went through a terribe, nearly two-month-long (counting postseason starts) run with severe mechanical problems. Because of the aforementioned bullpen uncertainty, Matt Cain was used more liberally, resulting in him becoming almost completely exhausted by the time the postseason run started. Brandon Crawford, rookie SS, made a boatload of errors in the first half before becoming a very solid defensive shortstop in the second half; Brandon Belt, rookie 1B, underperformed expectations in terms of power, running very hot and very cold at different points in the season before becoming consistent from early August onward. This team had Ryan Theriot as its starting second baseman for the first two-thirds of the season before Marco Scutaro showed up.

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Possible. But if he does, it'll have to be something different from hamate bones, as he's out of hamate bones to injure.

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Scutaro wont play out of his mind.
Almost a given. I certainly don't expect him to hit .362 as a Giant forever. However, his career averages will do just nicely. As previously hinted at, it's not difficult to upgrade from Ryan Theriot. And if there is one place where the Giants' farm system is notoriously weak, it's with middle infielders, so keeping Scutaro was something of a necessity. At the same time, though, Joe Panik could very easily be ready to join the San Francisco club by late 2014/early 2015.

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Pagan will be pedestrian.
What is the evidence for this? Yes, he had a bad 2011. But that bad 2011 was notable for a reason. Anything below 2 WAR is very much below average for Pagan. Moreover, he is just about as well-suited to AT&T Park as any hitter in the game. I'm willing to think he won't give us 5 WAR again, but at the same time, I could see him replicating much of his offensive success at home, since he was built to hit triples and AT&T Park is about as triples-friendly a ball park as any that has ever been created. He broke the San Francisco Giants' record for triples in a season, and I could see him going after that record again.

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And they're locked into those contracts for years to come.
Sandoval, unless he is extended, is a free agent after 2014. Everyone pretty much takes it for granted that it would be a blessing to get two whole years of quality starting second baseman work from Scutaro at his age, so the third year, while definitely an overpay, is something of a "thank you" to Scutaro for the work he put in to help the team make it all the way. Pagan's contract is definitely the most questionable, at four years, $40 million (thanks, Phillies), but a bit like Scutaro, he's sort of a late-bloomer (still only 31, though) and unlike some center fielders at his age, unlikely to begin declining for another couple of years or so. It should be noted that in 2012 he had on and off very minor hand injuries, and one of them contributed to one of his slumps.

Ultimately, if Pence can even begin to get back to his career averages for production, if Belt can potentially put together a strong year (hate to use the term "breakout" but it would be welcomed) and if Lincecum can be even halfway between the awfulness that he was for the most part in 2012 and what he was before, I think even if Pagan and Scutaro don't even begin to duplicate their 2012 performances in 2013, a lot of these troubles will be offset. It would be nice if we could get something close to a full year of Sandoval, though; the odds of which are, again, decent, since he's out of hamate bones.

Anything can or might happen over the course of a baseball season. I'm not completely certain that the NL West will be had again by the Giants, but I'm also rather sure that San Francisco's baseball team is among the elite teams of the National League, warts and all, along with the Nationals, Reds, Braves, Cardinals and Dodgers. Unless the team is beset by a 2011-like storm of cataclysmic injuries to key starting stars all the way through the roster, with Scutaro becoming the new broken-down Aubrey Huff, I honestly have difficulty seeing that not being the case for at least another year.

Having said all of that, I could see the Diamondbacks make a run this year, too. Their pythag left them with an 86-76 record last year, so they underperformed by five games. The division will be a kerfuffle, I'm sure.
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WORLD SERIES: Nationals defeat the Tigers in 7 games.
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Fantastic predictions, brother.

Just going to go with playoff predictions here.

ALCS: Angels over Tigers
NLCS: NATIONALS over GIANTS (Hopefully Brother CP, Brother Deso, and I finally get our seven game series between these two ELITE teams).

World Series: NATIONALS over Angels.
Yes, Brother GOON, it would be awesome to finally see a seven-game NLCS series between the Nationals and Giants.

Pfft, but a real elite team would sweep the Tigers in the World Series.

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