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**Haystacks Calhoun** · 01-11-2013, 10:28 AM

If I was a HoF voter, I'd hold a conference and get a consensus vote for the next year ahead of time. We're forcing these 15 through to the HoF, and that'll open it up more for future years.

Or maybe it'll just make HoF voters congress, "Yeah, we can get you the votes for Raines, but you guys have to vote for Morris", I'm loving this idea already!

Perfect Poster · 01-11-2013, 10:54 AM

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Rangers aren't gonna trade for him either. Seattle was going to give up one of their stud prospect pitchers and other stuff. Too rich. I'd rather keep what pitching prospects Texas has since FA pitchers rarely come to Arlington. Unless we're talking Stanton. Things change fast when we're talking Stanton...which isn't happening either I know.

I'd disagree with you. Prospects are overrated by many (including even myself at times). While Profar/Olt are highly regarded (ik they aren't pitching prospects but I'm assuming are among Rangers top 2-4 prspects). If you have the chance to get a potential MVP guy for some prospects, you make the deal. That's what kinda brought the Tigers back to relevance. Sure, they had that stud prospect that panned out (VERLANDER) but Cabrera was traded for 6 prospects, including 2 top 10 guys that never lived up to potential (although Maybin's an alright player now). Scherzer and Jackson? Trades, although Jackson didn't have MLB experience at the time. Fister? Prospects. Sanchez? Top pitching prospect and a solid hitting prospect. Unless you have a Bryce Harper (which I think you'd agree Texas doesn't have) why wouldn't you trade for JUp? He's young, and while he's had some hot and cold years, we've seen him hit like an MVP candidate at his best and without Hamilton that could be a nice big bat in the lineup. I'd personally make the deal even if it meant Profar and Olt, since more often than not prospects don't pan out or are heavily overrated.

tl;dr Trade for a potential MVP candidate if a top prospect is all it takes. I'll take the young proven guy over the younger unproven guy every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

**MrMister** · 01-11-2013, 11:55 AM

Is Upton an MVP at this point? He's had a few MEH seasons, looks like he could have weight issues too.

You did see how I'd trade for Stanton with just about anything right? So we actually agree, but disagree on what Upton is worth.

Profar is a SHORTSTOP, and possibly a great one. Those are rare. So yeah you have to get something more proven than Justin Upton.

**El Conquistador** · 01-11-2013, 01:02 PM

Stanton will have to move to the American League eventually altogether. No way with his sheer size that he'll be able to continue playing the OF on an everyday basis. As for Upton, I don't think he's a stud. A package around Olt should be obvious, but I'd hang onto Profar.

**MrMister** · 01-11-2013, 04:17 PM

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Team USA looking juicy, despite notable players turning down invites to the WBC. Braun, McCutchen, D. Wright, Tulo.... not bad. It'll be fun to watch some semi meaningful baseball this spring, instead of the MLB running through the motions with their cactus league and spring training schedules.

Add Adam Jones to this list. Too bad Stanton said no. Needs some Trout and Harper too.