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**El Conquistador** · 11-14-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aid180

So Giancarlo Stanton is unhappy with the Marlins management? They should trade him to the White Sox.

**DubC** · 11-14-2012, 06:40 PM

Well its offical, Torii Hunter signed a 2 year deal(36mil) with Tigers. Good luck to him.

**El Conquistador** · 11-14-2012, 06:44 PM

36 million? Damn. He is no longer worth that type of money. Perhaps 9 mil/yr, but definitely not 18/yr.

**DubC** · 11-14-2012, 06:53 PM

The thing that work great with Hunter was that he had Trout leading off and Pujols backing him up. I dont know how well he will do in Detroit, he isnt a power hitter and is starting to slow down in the outfield.

**DesolationRow** · 11-14-2012, 07:14 PM

No, Torii Hunter signed with the Detroit Tigers today officially for two years, $26 million dollars.

So, $13 million a year.

It's still something of an overpay (especially since it sounded like he was perfectly willing to go $20 million/2 years--you can do a lot with $6 million, like find a damned good relief pitcher which the Tigers could definitely use), particularly for a corner OF who's going to be 39 years old before the contract expires.

But... it's a pretty good fit for the Tigers, and it's quite evident that Ilitch will do just about anything in his power to get this team a World Series Title ASAP.

**Notorious** · 11-14-2012, 07:44 PM

Don't know if it's been mentioned in here but R.A. Dickey and David Price won the Cy Young Award for their respective leagues.

**DubC** · 11-14-2012, 07:48 PM

26mil is correct, my mistake. Torri would add some depth to the roster but its not the answer to a world series.

Edit: Congrats to Dickey and Price, would have love to see Weaver get it but Price was just ace this year.

**Haystacks Calhoun** · 11-14-2012, 09:36 PM

Say what you want about Buerhle, but he's an inning eater that'll get you a low 4 ERA, he has the 4th longest consecutive 200 IP seasons streak of all time, tied with maddux, no one else has done that in the last 30 years. With Buerhle, you're looking for a day to rest the middle relievers.

Perfect Poster · 11-14-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMister

16th, 15th, 18th is pretty average pitching dude.

I didn't say you can skate by with bad pitching. I said average. You don't need a lights out staff to make into the post season. Now to win the whole thing or advance deep, yeah, you need good pitching obviously.

edit: Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure Selig, Loria, and Samson are gay lovers btw.

Those were the lowest, though. When 62.5% of the top 16 pitching staffs make the playoffs (10/16) I'd say you have to be better than average.

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Originally Posted by JM

Romero just had elbow surgery. Something he could have had at any point during the season if he wanted to. He's a competitor and didn't want to miss time and since pitching couldn't really make the condition worse it was allowed. It clearly shouldn't have been but injuries had already derailed the season so it doesn't much matter.

Do you really think his season last year is what can be expected of Romero going forward? If you do then I will disagree and we can leave it at that. Next year he needs to be a #3 or #4 starter w/ Buehrle. It's pretty doable as far as I'm concerned. Last year he was expected to be the ace, that isn't the case anymore.

Truthfully Romero is likely somewhere in the middle of his past two seasons. 2011 he had some good luck on his side (.244 BABIP and 4.20 FIP compared to 2.92 ERA) and 2012 he had his luck come back (.311 BABIP lower FIP than ERA) but how much of that should be attributed to injury is definitely a question. Really I'd see him as a solid #3, and that's only if his injury was as much of a factor in his poor control as it was. Not terribly high on the guy, for sure.

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Originally Posted by Aid180

So Giancarlo Stanton is unhappy with the Marlins management? They should trade him to the White Sox.

Nah, Loria should do Illitch another favor and give him his up and coming star for some prospects

Although Castellanos/Garcia/Smyly for Stanton...

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Originally Posted by WWF

PRICE

Verlander was better.

abrown0718 · 11-14-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WWF

I certainly think Arizona would consider a deal based around Shields and a top Minor Leaguer. Highly doubt Tampa would trade Moore in a deal for Upton. Possibly Hellickson, but I still doubt that. The Rays have a ton of young, good pitching, and they'd be aiming to dump the older guys (Shields/Niemann) to open spots in the rotation for youth.

Fair enough. Would you do Shields/Archer/Lee?