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post #2331 of 3692 (permalink) Old 11-04-2012, 09:14 AM
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I think Lynn falling off in the last quarter of the season had more to do with fatigue than anything. Matheny rode him into the ground. If I'm not mistaking, I believe it was his first full year starting. With Carpenter down and Lynn having Cy Young type statistics through 10-15 starts, the Cardinals treated him like he was Chris Carpenter, when in reality, Lynn is a young, immature pitcher without a lot of innings on his arm.


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Congrats Giants fans. I told my boy about Pablo before the First game and he was like "who"? Now he's thinking about buying a jersey.
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Cardinals have one of the best Minor League systems but if we truly want to win we need a better middle infield. Furcal is slowing down and I don't think he truly has it anymore. Descalso can play pretty well but I prefer him off the bench to be honest. And Kozma hasn't proved much at this point. Andrus or a guy like Stephen Drew might be a good upgrade.
Doesn't Furcal have one more year left on his two-year deal, though, going into 2013? And I think he's getting $7 million per from you guys. Stephen Drew would be a good get for you under most circumstances, but he's locked in to $10 million for 2013--somebody's going to have to pay him that as a condition from the contract his agent worked out for him with the Diamondbacks--so at that point you're talking $17 million for a pair of shortstops, unless you find a way to move Furcal (which could very difficult for some of the reasons you mention).

Not to be a jerk, but I did like a lot of the middle infield play of the Cardinals in the NLCS this year.

Nah, but seriously, all teams have off games and off series. Kozma looks like he needs a bit more seasoning... Descalso seems more like bench/role/utility infielder to me, but they aren't bad or anything. Just a bit rough around the edges. Kozma is a decent player overall and he tends to make contact very often when batting, but it seems like St. Louis picking him in the first round back in 2007 has forever tainted him in many fans' eyes and it's too bad.

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Regarding the GIANTS and the free agency square dance... I'm hoping they sign Scutaro up for either one or two years at $7.5/$8 million per. I think Joe Panik should develop rather well this year in our farm system and Scutaro can be "the bridge" to Panik by the time 2014/2015 rolls around.

After that, looking at the CF situation, I'm okay with giving Pagan two years with a club option for a third at somewhere around $8 million per year, maybe $9 million per year, no higher than that. Rumor is that a bunch of clubs are offering him three-year deals, so if the GIANTS have to match that, so be it. With the proviso that we can move Pagan to LF when/if Gary Brown is ready to take over CF circa 2014 or whenever.

I'd like to see the GIANTS resign Jeremy Affeldt. He's a big game relief pitcher and we should use him a touch more liberally in eating up some innings around the 6th-8th innings in the future to give our starters a bit more rest when they aren't simply cruising toward the finish line of a start. I'd be fine with a three-year deal, maybe $5.25 million per? He has a bizarre, Twilight Zone-like history of oddball injuries (some of them are too goofy to even bring up here, hahaha), but I think he's worth the risk.

It would be cool to find a right-handed bat with some pop who can share LF with Gregor Blanco for next season.

After that... Deal with arbitration for Romo, Casilla and MVPosey, at some point or another. Maybe find one or two omre solid bench guys to join Arias. Potentially resign Ryan Theriot to another modest one-year deal as our backup 2B/pinch-hitter/DH at AL ballparks in interleague (hey, it worked for us in Game 4 of the World Series). And then, for 2013, anyway, we're pretty much set.

Zito will finally come off the books at the end of 2013 via buyout and there will be much drama surrounding Timmy Lincecum and what we should do with him. Gotta keep an eye on Crick, Stratton, Blackburn, et. al. in the farm system... Too bad the timing isn't right with Greinke, because if he were coming to the end of a deal with a team at the end of 2013, I'd strongly consider him being a good get for the GIANTS, but that is unrealistic and not feasible considering where we are now, and that's very much okay.

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And just like that, right after we discuss the St. Louis Cardinals potentially looking around for a shortstop, today one of the top rumors in MLB is that the Cardinals are looking at Cleveland Indian Asdrubal Cabrera.

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Damn. Now that would be an upgrade. And he has power at the plate so he would fit right in with our offense. The price for him is gonna be steep I presume though.

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The Rangers say they won't offer Hamilton more than a 3 year deal.

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And they shouldn't, dont think he'll that 175mil contract he is aiming for.


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Supposedly, Nick Swisher's agent, Joe Bick, reached out to San Francisco Giants General Manager Brian Sabean this past week and the rumor is that Bick and Swisher are aiming to land in San Francisco.

Swisher reportedly wants to join a winning club and has spoken with some reporters about wishing to get out of the excessively busy lifestyle of New York City and returning to the west coast. (He was an Oakland A in his formative years.)

However, the Baltimore Orioles, Washington Nationals, Atlanta Braves, Seattle Mariners, Texas Rangers and Philadelphia Phillies are all also very "serious" in attaining Swisher. Most of these clubs are offering 3 years at $11-$13 million as the annual salary.

-San Francisco GM Brian Sabean says that the team is very "optimistic" about resigning Angel Pagan, Marco Scutaro and left-handed reliever Jeremy Affeldt. In the case of the latter, a deal has already been offered to Affeldt of approximately $5/$5.25/$6 million per year for 3 years.

-Meanwhile, the Minnesota Twins are courting free agent starting pitcher Brandon McCarthy, who was injured in the horrible line drive hit to his head on September 5th when the Oakland A's hosted the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. The Twins are also looking at free agent starting pitchers Anibal Sanchez, Joe Blanton, Ryan Dempster and Brett Myers.

-Los Angeles Dodgers spending tons of money just to bid on a South Korean wunderkind pitcher! This team knows no financial limits... http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...-is-257mm.html

-Los Angeles Dodgers are seriously targeting Kevin Youkilis, which is scaring other clubs off, considering the Los Angeles Dodgers' astonishing financial might and power.

-Dodgers still suck.

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Swisher is garbage. He played every bit as small as Tex and A-Rod did in the playoffs. Not sure if he understands that NY is looking to cut payroll, primarily starting with him and Ichiro.


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I do strongly worry about Swisher's defense and I imagine his UZR was completely inflated by that tiny RF at Yankee Stadium. Concerning respective ballparks... Unlike Yankee Stadium, AT&T Park would almost surely utterly suppress most of his power. Moreover, he always seems to completely, utterly disappear in the postseason.

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A few more days and Posey should be NL MVP. Still say Braun is the superior hitter, but Posey's catching has to be factored in this thing.

TROUT or bust for the AL.

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