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Old 11-03-2012, 06:31 PM   #2321 (permalink)
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Cardinals should trade for Elvis Andrus..
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:35 PM   #2322 (permalink)
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Andrus is fucking solid, I would think Rangers would do everything to keep him.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:48 PM   #2323 (permalink)
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Nah. Rumor is they're looking to get rid of him to spot Profar some signficant playing time, Dub. Elvis is available from all indicators.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:02 PM   #2324 (permalink)
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I've heard the same Flex. It'd be easier to move Andrus than it would Kinsler. Andrus is younger and I think he's getting paid far less.

Personally I'd rather have Andrus and Profar at middle infield, but whatever.

Beltre, Profar, Andrus, and Olt. I like this infield if Olt can develop into a big league slugger.
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I wonder if Andrus is worth St. Louis giving up Rosenthal or Miller? I like both of them guys though. They have good potential for sure.
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It'd make more sense for them to move Andrus to 2nd and Kinsler out. Andrus is younger, cheaper, and likely a better defender.
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I have to also assume that whatever they do with Andrus/Kinsler will be heavily affected on whether or not Hamilton is a Ranger.
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Oh damn Profar? He is solid too. He is really fun too watch, athletic too.
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I wonder if Andrus is worth St. Louis giving up Rosenthal or Miller? I like both of them guys though. They have good potential for sure.
That organization would be foolish to move Shelby Miller. Guy has had a comparable K/9 as Strasburg did at something like 10.3K/9. He's the real deal and if I'm not mistaking, one of the most coveted prospects in all of baseball (including Trout, Harper, Matt Moore -- who are no longer considered "prospects" when next year starts). If Lohse is not resigned, they need to give that kid a rotation spot and limit his innings. Possibly start him every 6 or 7th day. I'm not pretending to be a beacon of knowledge, but everyone seems to think extremely highly of Shelby Miller. He is practically untradeable in a good way, of course.

Wainwright
Lynn
Carpenter
Westbrook
Garcia
Shelby Miller

Talk about depth...
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That organization would be foolish to move Shelby Miller. Guy has had a comparable K/9 as Strasburg did at something like 10.3K/9. He's the real deal and if I'm not mistaking, one of the most coveted prospects in all of baseball (including Trout, Harper, Matt Moore -- who are no longer considered "prospects" when next year starts). If Lohse is not resigned, they need to give that kid a rotation spot and limit his innings. Possibly start him every 6 or 7th day. I'm not pretending to be a beacon of knowledge, but everyone seems to think extremely highly of Shelby Miller. He is practically untradeable in a good way, of course.

Wainwright
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Carpenter
Westbrook
Garcia
Shelby Miller

Talk about depth...
I used to think the same of Miller but his AAA stats last year weren't very good and it scared me. He came up to St. Louis and did alright though which gave me more hope.

And honestly, we will see how Lynn develops. In the playoffs as a starter last year, he could only go about three innings and then he blew up. I'm not sure if that was just nerves of pitching in the playoffs or just bad pitching overall. He might be more set for the pen IF Miller can move into the rotation.

The Cards have plenty of minor league players to give up if they wanted Andrus that bad. Carlos Martinez is another pitcher who has loads of skill. I live near Springfield (AA affiliate of St.Louis) and I seen him pitch and that guy has skill.

If there was anybody I would give up for Andrus, it would be Rosenthal. I love the other prospects the Cardinals got. Oscar Taveras can hit the shit out of the ball and will replace Beltran when Beltran's legs give out. Kolten Wong is our future starting 2B and he can also hit.

Cardinals have one of the best Minor League systems but if we truly want to win we need a better middle infield. Furcal is slowing down and I don't think he truly has it anymore. Descalso can play pretty well but I prefer him off the bench to be honest. And Kozma hasn't proved much at this point. Andrus or a guy like Stephen Drew might be a good upgrade.
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