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Old 09-25-2012, 04:49 PM   #1981 (permalink)
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I am leaving for the Tiger's game in about fifteen minutes. I have a meeting in Birmingham (near Detroit) tomorrow, so I even booked a hotel room as a business expense, now I won't have to make the hour drive home. The Tiger's are my team, but regardless of bias, if Miggy is to win the Triple Crown it would be a damn shame to give Trout the AL MVP. I also think it would be a shame if the Tiger's make the playoffs and Trout ended up getting it.

If the Angels and Tigers both missed the postseason and the triple crown wasn't a possibility it would end up being rather close. The people who cast votes are very conservative in their ways and Trout is getting a lot of 'fan support' due to his excitement factor. You also have to take into account the markets they are in. Any athlete, on any team, in any sport in LA are under a microscope. If you are playing well it is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I do feel for them when they are in slumps; look what Pujols went through earlier this year.

Miguel will get AL MVP.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:40 PM   #1982 (permalink)
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You misunderstand me clearly. I'm telling you why the writers will/would vote Cabrera if he wins the Triple Crown, not why I think he should win it.
I didn't misunderstand you. Just explaining why voters voting that why is particularly stupid and antiquated. Your right in saying that the voters will vote that way anyway. I just wanted to elaborate on my thoughts on the Triple Crown. It is just so stupid.

What if Trout led the league in SB, BA, and Runs. Why is HR, RBIs, and BA considered better or more important or more valuable? It is all stupid conjecture and perception. Personally the "Triple Crown" should be HR, SB, and BA. Then I would be really impressed. RBIs and HRs go hand in hand. Let's see someone lead in my Triple Crown.*looks it up* only been done once by Ty Cobb in 1909. That's a Triple Crown.

This probably sounds like a stupid metaphor but we once believed the world was round and Aristotle was right about the universe. Those things were proven wrong as has the validity of the Triple Crown. Certain people just hold onto the old ways of thinking because they know if things change they'll no longer have anything to contribute. They know RBIs, R, BA, W, L, SV. If what is important changes, those people become worthless. People fight change. One day, the Triple Crown will be valued as it should, a neat thing that doesn't hold much weight. I think it will happen as soon as the old generation retires/moves on as they resist stuff like this the most. Sort of like how people are finally understanding how dumb Wins are for pitchers.

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Old 09-25-2012, 07:48 PM   #1983 (permalink)
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Yeah I agree. The Triple Crown was from a bygone era. Don't get me wrong, I think it'll be cool if Miggy gets the Triple Crown, but Trout had the better season. He's a better defender for starters. He led the AL in steals and has 20+ homers. Home runs will always be adored and they should be, but adding supreme steals onto power...to me...that's what baseball is all about. The most telling stat for me was the one that said with RBI chances, Trout actually performed better than Cabrera. Case closed after that.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:57 PM   #1984 (permalink)
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Trout is still the MVP to me, regardless of if Cabrera wins the triple crown.
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One more thing to the people who feel "if Miggy wins the Triple Crown he has to win MVP." What if he falls 1 RBI short? Then Trout should win? So 1 RBI should determine the MVP? That's just silly
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One more thing to the people who feel "if Miggy wins the Triple Crown he has to win MVP." What if he falls 1 RBI short? Then Trout should win? So 1 RBI should determine the MVP? That's just silly
No, Miguel should still win the triple crown. Also, for those that don't know if he ties in a category such as home runs with Josh Hamilton, he still receives the Triple Crown.

I had often thought about stolen bases and why they weren't a Triple (well, in that case quadruple) Crown category, but the Triple Crown revolves around batting.
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Felt good about the way Cain shut down a usually game Arizona D-Backs offense today. He's looking very good going into ORANGE OCTOBER.
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