Originally Posted by MrMister
King Felix is awesome too. What else?
I'm just saying how it is. Wins are a large factor in the Cy Young voting. I think wins are bullshit too for the most part, but with Price, they aren't.
So the Rays having the second best bullpen ERA in MLB (best in the AL) this season, at 2.85, totally exonerates Price from having BS wins?
Bullpens mean a lot more these days and like I said, Price has only had one complete game this year. So 15 of his 'wins' can be credited to the amazing bullpen that the Rays have. (FWIW, Verlander has a league-leading six and the Tigers bullpen is 18th in ERA at 3.78 and 10th (of 14) in the AL))
As for Felix in 2010:
13-12, 2.27 ERA (best in baseball), 34 starts (most in baseball), six complete games, 249.2 IP (most in baseball), 232 K, 70 BB, 174 ERA+, 1.057 WHIP, 7 H/9 (best in baseball), 8.4 K/9, 0.6 HR/9, 2.5 BB/9, 3.31 K/BB. He was pretty damn good and considering that the Seattle pen that year had a 4.23 ERA (which was 11th in the AL) it was awfully impressive.