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Old 08-22-2012, 09:40 PM   #1741 (permalink)
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I didn't bother to look his stats up, but now that you mention it, no, I don't.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:46 PM   #1742 (permalink)
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Interesting...

I'm of the opinion that nobody has separated themselves from the rest of the pack yet. Then again, I only have a general idea of what each's statistics are.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:49 PM   #1743 (permalink)
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I agree, but at this moment in time, I'd give Price the edge. Most wins, lowest ERA, 2nd most K's, though highest WHIP.
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Price is the AL Cy Young pitcher as of today. I'm a huge fan of Sale, and he'll probably win one at some point starting next year, but he's pitching longer than he ever has I'm pretty sure. Not sure how much longer he can keep it up.


Price leading in wins is impressive since the Rays hitting wasn't the greatest while Longoria was out. It's no shock that his ERA and K rate go along with the Ws.
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I agree, but at this moment in time, I'd give Price the edge. Most wins, lowest ERA, 2nd most K's, though highest WHIP.
Never recognized that, to be honest. In years past, I always considered him a #2 starter on a pitching staff with the potential to be dominant. I had no idea the disparity between his stats and the rest is that great.
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I agree, but at this moment in time, I'd give Price the edge. Most wins, lowest ERA, 2nd most K's, though highest WHIP.
I'm going to just interject and say Verlander beats Price in IP, H/9, BB/9, K/9, K/BB, ERA+, FIP, FIP-, rWAR, and fWAR.

Wins is arbitrary as fuck.

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How? Price literally only went the distance once out of his 16 wins and it was back in April against the Rays. He's been helped out by Fernando Rodney and the rest of the Rays bullpen (y'know, the reason he has 'gotten' 15 of his 16 wins). His run support hasn't been bad either, because the Rays have averaged 6.0625 runs/game in his 16 wins. (I will say though that the Rays defense has been less than stellar which has helped him a lot along with the pen).

I could see Price being Cy Young (I thought he would personally before the season started) but it's not as clear cut of a choice as you seem to be making it out to be. Verlander is more than deserving of going back to back.
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HERE WE GO

But nah, wins have always been a huge stat when determining the Cy Young winner despite them being arbitrary as fuck.
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Price is definitely the ace of the staff. Shields is good, but I don't know what it is, he just can't be great. In a couple years, I fully expect the duo of Price and Moore to be hovering atop the AL Cy Young standings. Hell, could be next year, if Price keeps this up and Moore's stellar 2nd half can carry over.
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Verlander
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In that order.
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