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Old 03-10-2012, 08:02 AM   #131 (permalink)
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It's still ridiculous and an unfair advantage when it can be so easily fixed. Looking at the teams competing for the top 8 this year, well places 5-8, it's so tight between the likes of Adelaide, Carlton, Fremantle, St. Kilda, Essendon, Richmond, Sydney, those with the easier fixtures have more chance of getting to the finals. With 4 points for a win too, it makes such a difference.

Imagine the fuss if teams over here like Everton had to play City, United, Arsenal, Spurs & Chelsea twice while Sunderland had Rovers, Bolton, Wigan, QPR, Wolves twice. It's just so unfair. It's the only thing I don't like about the AFL. Would it be so ridiculous to extend the season so each team plays each other twice and shorten or scrap the finals?

Great win for the Hawks, still not reading too much into it unlike the Richmond & Adelaide fans on Fox about their wins over the Cats & Pies.
because it's not possible over here. we cant have a 34 game season. getting rid of the finals wouldnt make up that difference. team only play once a week, they dont have midweek games like in europe. with cricket season here as well as the a-league it's not possible. even 22 rounds is going to be incredibly taxing. one year you'll get a crippling draw, the next you'll get an easy one. you take it as you go.

plus, the point more of playing each other twice is playing home and away. obviously there are teams that share the same home ground. plus there's special fixtures that only happen once a year and should be kept that way. anzac day, queens birthday clash, etc etc. plus afl depends on the finals series. the grand final is the epitome of the competition. the sense of there being a chance that any of 8 teams can be called the premiership winners. that's such an integral part of the sport and has been for a hundred years. getting rid of it would completely ruin the competition.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:10 AM   #132 (permalink)
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It sounds like the SPL method would be best then. At the halfway stage, the league is split in two and the top 8 are guaranteed of their spot and they all play each other while the bottom 8 play each other. That's a whole lot fairer than the current method and it doesn't disrupt the schedule set out for each season.

I could never accept a crippling fixture list one season, it's just so unfair.
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How is a system where the bottom 8 (well, 10 this year) can't overtake those above them? This isn't NASCAR, and when the difference between 8th and 9th in some years comes down to percentages, well, it's just not feasable.

As Mr.Snrub stated, the better teams get the harder schedules in an attempt to provide an extra element of competition and closeness to the premiership. If teams like Geelong, Collingwood, West Coast & Hawthorn got to play GWS, Gold Coast, Port etc twice, then what does that accomplish other than boosting their percentages? Finish high, have a tougher next season. A welcome reward and more exciting viewing.
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As Mr.Snrub stated, the better teams get the harder schedules in an attempt to provide an extra element of competition and closeness to the premiership. If teams like Geelong, Collingwood, West Coast & Hawthorn got to play GWS, Gold Coast, Port etc twice, then what does that accomplish other than boosting their percentages? Finish high, have a tougher next season. A welcome reward and more exciting viewing.
To be honest I'd say it's just because the AFL wants to make money off two "good" teams playing each other.
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How is a system where the bottom 8 (well, 10 this year) can't overtake those above them? This isn't NASCAR, and when the difference between 8th and 9th in some years comes down to percentages, well, it's just not feasable.

As Mr.Snrub stated, the better teams get the harder schedules in an attempt to provide an extra element of competition and closeness to the premiership. If teams like Geelong, Collingwood, West Coast & Hawthorn got to play GWS, Gold Coast, Port etc twice, then what does that accomplish other than boosting their percentages? Finish high, have a tougher next season. A welcome reward and more exciting viewing.
I guess it just comes down to being used to fairness over here where everyone plays the same twice, once at home and once away so everyone has it the same way. It's just bizarre that it's accepted for Adelaide this year for example to have such a 'fortunate' fixture list.

The SPL method I mentioned isn't great but it'd be fairer than the current system that allows advantages to some teams competing for a finals' spot against their rivals with tougher games. Why not just cut the season short at start after everyone's played each other once and just extend the finals, making that even more prestigious & competitive?

Edit: Just thought that if a team for example is tailing off towards the end of the season and clearly not playing for anything, they could go about deliberately losing matches so they could get a better fixture list for the next season. To me if I was at one of those teams, that would definitely cross my mind. It's just shocking!
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It just isn't possible to play a full home and away season, so the way the comp is structured is as fair as its going to get. There are measures in place to prevent teams from 'sandbagging' it towards the end of the season as well.
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It just isn't possible to play a full home and away season, so the way the comp is structured is as fair as its going to get. There are measures in place to prevent teams from 'sandbagging' it towards the end of the season as well.
That's good but on occasions it might be difficult to accuse someone of being shit or deliberately shit.

Thinking about it, I'd love to see the season end after the first 17 fixtures and just extend the finals with everyone involved based on their position.

1st v 16th, 2nd v 15th, 3rd v 14th etc in an elimination, then the winners go through into a home & away knockout competition. That would be exciting, and some of the early finals campaign is a joke anyway. This system would be the same in the first stage for the top 5/6 against the bottom 6, but at least it would be fair, not that the AFL cares about anything but money.
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it's not like it's guaranteed that a lesser team is always going to lose. on any day a team can be off and the other team can really challenge them. when we played collingwood last year we were expected to lose by about 10 goals. we came within a goal. each team plays each other once at least, but it's impossible to change the way it's played without absolute uproar, and with good reason. this isnt europe. if we extend the season into summer, we cant have players running around in 35+ degree heat.
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^That last method wouldn't be extending it, shortening it even. Oh well, it's not going to happen anyway.

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