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Maloney, unfortunately, is very very bad in defence. Iím not saying he wouldnít spark something in attack, but I honestly feel Wallace is almost like killing two birds with one stone. As far as Iím concerned, he has proven that he can guide a team around the park as well as any halfback in the game, particularly when the team heís guiding is Brisbane. Add to that the fact that he actually strengthens your defence (a bonus), and heís an attractive proposition. IMO he was dropped far too soon, especially when he delivered a win with a sound performance opposite Bird (a guy I consider a runner, not ball player).

Stewart could be moved to the wing outside a solid two-way centre. Heís good under the high ball, and will stick with his man. As I said earlier, he handled the position quite well against the Kiwis a few years ago. Dugan strikes me as someone QLD would pick. I still think Hayne is a defensive liability on the wing. Iím suggesting moving him to FB, but a whole host of new problems surface if you are of the belief that the FB is instrumental in calling and setting a line (kind of like the teamís eye from the back). Actually, a few years ago I compared Hunt to Slater. At the time, QLD had win 33% of games with Slater at FB. These teams averaged something like 22 points against. Hunt at FB yielded 5 out of 6 wins, with fewer than 10 points against!

Personally, I wouldnít call Josh Morris a good defender. The guy doesnít have a big workload at club level. But he did surprise me in game 2 (19 tackles, 1 mistackle). He handled Inglis. It doesnít matter what he does at club level with performances like that. And he clearly offers far more in attack than other options. All he has to do is maintain his defence at rep level.

I fear dropping Pearce is like resetting the team. It could set you back 3 years. Also, heís only just revived his partnership with Carney. Having said that, I donít know how long you can persist. IMO Stuart will not drop Pearce.

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Stuart is no longer our coach if the rumours are to believed, so someone like Laurie Daley would drop Pearce. You call out Maloney's weaknesses but then praise Wallace who is outplayed and outclassed by Pearce.
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Daley is a poor choice as coach. I donít see him as the X/O guy that Henry was & he doesnít have Meningaís aura. If I were in charge, Iíd have the situation look like this:

NSW Head Coach: Des Hasler
NSW Assistant Coach/City Coach: Jim Dymock
NSW Assistant Coach/Country Coach: Geoff Toovey

Itís a massive undertaking for all involved, but thatís the kind of structure that I could certainly get behind. I donít necessarily feel a fulltime coach is essential.

I donít see how Pearce is better than Wallace at anything. If we lose Wallace, weíre fucked. Heís a huge part of the team, and heís proven that with and without Locky. Heís our most important player by the greatest of margins. I find it funny that a fair few Brisbane fans donít even rate him. He's always the scapegoat. If Iím a rival club, Iíd offer $400-450k for his services (we did re-sign him, though). Norman looks to be right at home, but letís make no mistake that Wallace is the architect. As for Reynolds, give him time. I think youíre crazy to be interested in him after less than one season of first grade in such a vital position.

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NSWRL won't allow a club coach to be rep coach so no Hasler or Toovey.

The upside of Maloney far outweighs the negatives imo. Pearce isn't a good defender himself and isn't much in attack.

I'd offer Wallace nowhere near 450k unless the cap rose heaps. Although if you pay Sandow 500+ then Wallace is easily worth at least that (lolparra).

I'd love Foran to fuck NZ off, and come play for NSW. Carney/Foran would solve the issue of attack vs defense in a half as pound for pound Foran is one of the hardest hitters in the game.

Josh Morris is a good-great defender, and an excellent attacker imo.

Hayne needs to play fullback, he's wasted on the wing. I'd rather not have Stewart in the side, purely b/c he's so key to us at club level and physically he's breaking down and is already on a permanant reduced training schedule.


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Except that the NSW role should be fulltime and Des won't quit fulltime for origin.

Ben Hunt is better than Wallace, Wallace is a complete and utter hack who Penrith were glad to be rid of. He pulls off one good play a month and gets rated to the moon by the Queensland media and ex-Broncos players. He's fucking useless. Paying anywhere over 200k a season for a hack like him means the club is void of intellect and financial smarts
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Maloney is better than Pearce, but is he better than Pearce + the experience of the team as a whole since Pearce became the HB? Itís a tough one. I think a new coach could make the move. Whenever the 6 and 7 link up, I would still prefer to see Maloney playing deeper. It might seem odd saying this now, but donít be surprised if lights go on in the coaching staffís minds when they see Maloney and Pearce play together for the Roosters, especially if SBW joins and makes their task easier.

If Parra had made that deal + resurrected Carneyís career, theyíd have a spine that I would happily play in SOO. It would boost NSW chances having them at club level. Parra wouldnít be in the position they are now.

Iím not sure if Foran was available when NZ went for Johnson, but thatís a big mistake. Foran has shown that heís exactly what Benji needs at rep level. SJ plays the similar sort of off-the-cuff style to Benji, while Foran has shown great control and a deft kicking game.

Last time I checked, Morris was doing less than 10 tackles a game. That simply isnít any kind of workload to qualify as solid defender (Jennings was doing the same). In game 3, he did the same. Game 1, he made 15 but missed 5.

Stewart used to be bloody quick. Iíd say easily one of the quickest players Iíve seen, and Iím talking about guys like Oudenryn, Offiah, Whereat, Joven Clarke and Matt Rieck when making that statement. He was deceptively quick.

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We had him on $300k, thereís no doubt in my mind heís getting more than that this time around. It would probably take an offer within the bracket I suggested to even have a chance of prying him away from us. Ben Hunt? Come now.

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yeah Stewart used to be blinding. His reads in defense weren't great but his pace easily made up for it and he could get into gaps before the defense knew there was a gap. Now that he's done done both knees and picked up more injuries he's lost a few yards of pace and isn't even the quickest in our side. Whare and Oldfield both outpace him.

Foran was injured for the last lot of rep games. He's their first choice halfback when fit. If Johnson matures a bit more and learn when to turn on and off the razzle dazzle and miracle balls then he'll be brilliant for them. He's too similar to Benji though as of right now.

Morris misses a lot of his tackles on a kick chase/players coming out of their ingoal. Not as many during normal play, but he reads the game well as a centre. Knows when to come in and when to slide which Uate in game one had no concept of. When he played with Hayne in Origin 3 then they were able to defend as a unit.

@sXe Ben Hunt is utter shite as a half. Wallace is way better.


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I maintain my point that Wallace is complete and utter shit. Same category as Mullen really - sorely overrated based off a few special moments in games. They offer absolutely nothing and are glossended by better players around them and a forward pack who can chew up metres for them. You look at guys like Cronk, Thurston, Marshall etc, they can create from nothing and don't need that boost.

Yes, Ben Hunt.
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