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Old 06-06-2012, 12:11 AM   #401 (permalink)
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okay, why do you like the team we selected and tell me how we're going to win the series with these players.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:55 PM   #402 (permalink)
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I am also keen to see why we should be happy with another team that's been filled with players based on name value and personal preference over form once more, is gonna win us the series.

Enlighten us whitty.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:49 PM   #403 (permalink)
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Why would anything I say going to change any of you're opinions in the slightest? You two were the same who said Farah shouldn't be near the squad yet he was the BEST Blues player on the field along with Greg Bird, Jennings and Hayne. The last two who you also said should not have been in the squad.

Maybe you two should wait until the game before you have egg on your faces again.
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Farah had a good game, or rather he had a great first half and gassed in the 2nd.
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Yeah because it being a team just relies on that one player? I hope that NSW have a barnstorming game, and if they do, what will you say?
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i said they should win at home. If we can't win at home then there is something seriously wrong.

How about you answer anything me and renegade asked you,

1) How does Tim Grant deserve a spot?
2) What is the reason behind picking an injured player in Watmough?
3) How does Creagh deserve a spot?
4) Why do we have so many backrowers selected (Gallen, Stewart, Watmough, Lewis, Creagh, Bird) when Gallen, Stewart, Watmough and lewis are 80 minute players?
5) How does Jennings deserve a spot when he can't get into his club side?

Jennings did not have a good game 1, he spent 10 minutes in the bin and absolutely killed every single bit of momentum we had which we never regained.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:17 AM   #407 (permalink)
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i said they should win at home. If we can't win at home then there is something seriously wrong.

How about you answer anything me and renegade asked you,

1) How does Tim Grant deserve a spot?
2) What is the reason behind picking an injured player in Watmough?
3) How does Creagh deserve a spot?
4) Why do we have so many backrowers selected (Gallen, Stewart, Watmough, Lewis, Creagh, Bird) when Gallen, Stewart, Watmough and lewis are 80 minute players?
5) How does Jennings deserve a spot when he can't get into his club side?

Jennings did not have a good game 1, he spent 10 minutes in the bin and absolutely killed every single bit of momentum we had which we never regained.
Hahahahaha, wow..so everyone has to answer to the almighty man himself?

1. Personally, it was a toss up between Galloway and Woods for mine. Although I do think Tim Grant was always going to be a great prospect for New South Wales. I thought the point of droping Buhrer was a case of "too much too soon" Grant stands out to me though, I've got this gut feeling that himself and Jimmy (James Tamou) will stand up and deliver in game 2.

You have to look at it from the prospective of yes, we have these two big mobile forwards who can tear it up against the likes of Matt Scott, Shillington etc. See this may also answer a bit of question four in that plus those two big forwards we have plus the likes of Watmough, Lewis, Bird, Gallen and Stewart. These guys are straight up athletes and they will give Queensland a good run for their money in the forward department.

So in saying that, selecting Tim Grant it is fully justified.

2. You could have said the same thing about Thurston in the previous years but he keeps on delivering each and every single year. Something that Watmough himself does everytime he puts on the New South Wales jersey. Watmough will play great, the medical staff would not what is going on, they deal with this type of stuff all the time. Watmough always rips in and it gives it 110% whether it be the Manly, Blues or Australia jersey.

3. I've always thought Creagh was a dodgy selection ever since Game 2, 2009. I should have brought up how I didn't fully agree with that selection. Woods should be in his place. It's just a case of me wanting the best for the team. I've lived up here in QLD and I know what they are like. QLD could stick Thaiday on the wing and they would still cheer the decision. A lot of New South Welshman have to realise that, you have to be up here for a long time to know what they are like.

4. Well, with the 80 minute question, you really get the best of both worlds and you get all the impact out of all of them to tire down the lazy Queensland forwards. It's going to be an intriguing battle to say the least. I answered the rest of this question on question 1.

5. Club form does not matter at all. Doesn't that teach you anything? Michael Jennings was questioned last year about his club form for game 1 and was 100% the best player on the field. Club form or what goes in within his football club..it does not matter. He has always done great for NSW and he always plays great. Very similar to the cases of a Johnathan Thurston and Darius Boyd for QLD. Jarryd Hayne for NSW. etc.

I hope that clears everything up for you and you can take in other individuals opinions and learn what other people have to say.

I hope I answered your questions gracefully but knowing you for such a short period of time, you will find a way to nitpick.

Have a nice day

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You keep saying shit like

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It's just a case of me wanting the best for the team. I've lived up here in QLD and I know what they are like. QLD could stick Thaiday on the wing and they would still cheer the decision. A lot of New South Welshman have to realise that, you have to be up here for a long time to know what they are like.
So we are supposed to put up with mediocrity? You know why they don't complan about selections? Because they pick the same side that has won 6 series in a row. If they decided to put billy Slater on the wing and an injury prone, and out of form player at fullback instead, do you think they'd be happy? No they wouldn't. yet we're meant to be happy that Stewart who is out of form and on a reduced training schedule for Manly and Hayne who has come into form at fullback.

I know what Watmough can bring to the side and i know how good he is (I'm a manly fan) but right now he is struggling to get through 60 mins playing for us in club football. I do not want to see him miss weeks out on injury when we already have T Rex sitting on the sidelines as he was rushed into the NSW side with no match fitness.

Tim Grant is not justified in the slightest. Woods is in far better form, is a far better player and could be a starting NSW prop for years to come. In no way at all does Grant deserve it over him. Creagh is useless. If he makes more than 50 metres i'll be shocked. He is a gypsy, disappears in the middle of games, shows no heart, no effort and is a passenger. I argue about Harrison to that other guy in here all the time but i rate Harrison at being one of the best defenders in the game. He is an important role player for them. Thaiday provdes the aggro and leadership, Harrison; defense, Myles is a workhorse, Petro is now in for sentiment only, Dave Taylor provides some aggro, metres and Hannant chews up the metres. Every one of their forward pack has a defined role in the squad.

Look at the NSW pack,

Gallen; metres, leadership, tackles, biggest worker in the game
Bird; aggro, good ball runner
Tamou; huge man, chews up the metres.
G. Stewart; ball playing forward, acts as a secondary 5/8th at time.
Watmough; has the x factor, good leg drive makes him bust through the defense and make a lot of metres
Lewis: smaller player, basically a handy utility
Creagh; ???

he does nothing. He makes no metres, his defense is par, he can't pass the ball, and he doesn't break tackles. He basically makes up the numbers in most of his games. I hope he can prove me wrong but he doesn't get involved as much.

There are good players who are overlooked for selection in favour of those getting picked on reputation alone. We're not building a team for the future, we're not even picking on form, they're just getting in via random luck is seems sometimes.
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So we are supposed to put up with mediocrity? You know why they don't complan about selections? Because they pick the same side that has won 6 series in a row. If they decided to put billy Slater on the wing and an injury prone, and out of form player at fullback instead, do you think they'd be happy? No they wouldn't. yet we're meant to be happy that Stewart who is out of form and on a reduced training schedule for Manly and Hayne who has come into form at fullback.

I know what Watmough can bring to the side and i know how good he is (I'm a manly fan) but right now he is struggling to get through 60 mins playing for us in club football. I do not want to see him miss weeks out on injury when we already have T Rex sitting on the sidelines as he was rushed into the NSW side with no match fitness.

Tim Grant is not justified in the slightest. Woods is in far better form, is a far better player and could be a starting NSW prop for years to come. In no way at all does Grant deserve it over him. Creagh is useless. If he makes more than 50 metres i'll be shocked. He is a gypsy, disappears in the middle of games, shows no heart, no effort and is a passenger. I argue about Harrison to that other guy in here all the time but i rate Harrison at being one of the best defenders in the game. He is an important role player for them. Thaiday provdes the aggro and leadership, Harrison; defense, Myles is a workhorse, Petro is now in for sentiment only, Dave Taylor provides some aggro, metres and Hannant chews up the metres. Every one of their forward pack has a defined role in the squad.

Look at the NSW pack,

Gallen; metres, leadership, tackles, biggest worker in the game
Bird; aggro, good ball runner
Tamou; huge man, chews up the metres.
G. Stewart; ball playing forward, acts as a secondary 5/8th at time.
Watmough; has the x factor, good leg drive makes him bust through the defense and make a lot of metres
Lewis: smaller player, basically a handy utility
Creagh; ???

he does nothing. He makes no metres, his defense is par, he can't pass the ball, and he doesn't break tackles. He basically makes up the numbers in most of his games. I hope he can prove me wrong but he doesn't get involved as much.

There are good players who are overlooked for selection in favour of those getting picked on reputation alone. We're not building a team for the future, we're not even picking on form, they're just getting in via random luck is seems sometimes.
I do not mean to spam but holy shit balls...you don't get anything I'm saying or you are not taking time in to think of what I have been saying to you..

How can you not remember when Wesser, Hannay and Mogg were selected for QLD back in '06? Those guys are so average in club level and STILL produced awesome football for Queensland.

It's not about putting up with mediocrity, you have missed my point 100%. It's about putting the guys who put their heart and soul in to the Blues jersey and sticking with them yet you were saying before Game 1 to drop Hayne and Jennings. And I don't mean to spam but what in the fucking fuck?!?! How do you not get any of what I'm saying. Just because you believe in what you're saying doesn't mean you have to force it down my throat.

Like I said with Creagh, I don't agree with that selection at all. Woods would be much better in the role but Stuart seems a bit eh about it because of what happened to Galloway and Snowden in the past when they played for the Blues, let's face it...they got eaten for breakfast by QLD.

You've just answered you're own question with listing all the forwards abilities. They all add an X factor which is great for the Blues. Why would you possibly dislike that...

You make no sense and I'm not going to reply to you until Game 2 is done or if we go on to win Game 2 and 3. You are negative and if you are thinking that is going to help out the Blues. You are wrong.

Take care, sir.
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Comparing a lump of shit like Snowden to Galloway proves you haven't the slightest clue what you're on about. We need to pick a side based on FORM, and players who will show up and PERFORM for their state, something which Creagh has none of, and never does. Galloway was one of our best in Game 3 last year but was quickly forgotten about due to wanting the same old shit in the squad.

The main point you're missing, 'whitty,' is that we have selected 80-minute players in our back row (Bird, Gallen, Lewis), so why do we also need to select Creagh and Watmough? IMO we need props on the bench to boost our guys when they get tired, guys like Woods, Galloway, Douglas, Tolman, all overlooked for some unbeknownst reason so they can shove Creagh and other shit into the side, get beaten, and then wonder where it all went wrong again. Ideally, I'd run with Tamou/Douglas as our props, with Merrin, Woods & Galloway on the bench. I'd have Hinchcliffe in as a utility bench player who can provide relief at dummy half or in the 2nd row should it be required (this role would be Gidley's if he was fit though).

You look at the Maroons side, namely their bench, and can see where they get the selections right - there's no need to pick a surplus of 2nd rowers when you have a backrow of Thaiday, Myles & Harrison who can all be 80-minute players, so that's why they back Petero & Scott up with the likes of Hannant, Taylor & Gillett.
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